----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Flashner" <tflash@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning for print size - Pyro > on 4/7/02 4:19 PM, Martin Wesley wrote: > > > The staining occurs in direct proportion to the silver development. You can > > actually take a pyro developed neg, bleach all the silver out of it and > > print from image recorded by the grainless staining process. Practically > > this does not appear to improve print quality so it isn't done. > > So the dense areas get more stain than the thin areas, increasing contrast? Todd, The image formed is a combination of silver grain and stain density which both respond proportionally to exposure. The contrast is determined by the development just like any other film and developer combination. A pyro developed negative would look very thin to you. One of the advantages is that since the highlights densities are a combination of translucent stain and silver they do not get block up as soon as non-staining developers do. The end result in an increase in the usable highlights. Pyro produces two types of staining action. One in conjunction with silver development which you want and one as the result of oxidation from air in the darkroom which can increase overall fog and can be uneven which you don't. The problems associated with the second pushed it out of favor as new developers came along. The PMK formula side stepped the bulk of the unwanted staining. I get really critical and develop in pyro in a nitrogen atmosphere but that is another story. Remember that with all developers, increase development to increase contrast, decrease development to decrease contrast. As you increase development you do increase fog+base film density but it increases much more slowly than the highlight density. Martin
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2002-04-08 by Martin Wesley
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