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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Do-it-yourself Inkset

2002-04-09 by Martin Wesley

----- Original Message -----
From: "stevekphoto" <stevek@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:39 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Do-it-yourself Inkset


> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
> <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "stevekphoto" <stevek@e...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Do-it-yourself Inkset
> >
> >
 (snip)

> > not been refined and there was about a two month gap before I got
> to the
> > point I wanted.
>
> Then it seems I should commend you on your perseverance. For myself,
> I needed to get on with it, and the warm part of the set simply
> didn't work well enough.
>
> > I guess my concern is that the VM inks with the curves works for
> the
> > majority of people with a reasonable screen to print match. If it
> isn't
> > working for you, then I would suspect that there is something wrong
> > somewhere in the set-up, with the printer, etc. So it seems
> unlikely that if
> > you create a workflow that works well for your system, and I do
> salute you
> > for being ingenious and persevering enough to do this, that it may
> not work
> > with anyone else's.
>
> I concede that this setup may not, but my opinion (completely
> untested at this point) is that it will work not only for any 1280,
> but with relatively little work, on any six ink printer. Is that an
> outrageous enough claim to get your hackles up? I thought so! So
> I'll go you one better on your offer to trade step-wedges: Send me a
> virgin empty cart and the cost of the ink, and I'll fill it and let
> you try it for yourself if you have a spare six-inker not tied up
> with a CIS. WHAT SAY?

Sure, send away. I have 1280 I am doing some ink testing with at the moment.
I can just send you and empty cart and chip in return. I will e-mail you my
address off list.

I really don't have my hackles up though. I am just puzzled as to why the VM
with the RGB seperation curves did not work for you. Paul's mw curve gives
me a very smooth step wedge.

If you are on to something, I would be more than happy to take a look.

(snip)>
>
> > Generally monitor to print matching issue is approached by
> adjusting the
> > monitor software settings rather than adjusting the ink set. You
> have a lot
> > of options to create custom dot gain curves to match your output.
> The ideal
> > approach is to create a monitor profile for each ink and paper
> combination
> > but this requires some pricey equipment.
>
> As far as my system goes, it's calibrated fairly well, my color
> prints match up to my monitor nicely, as do my RGB attempts at B&W.
> AS you say, the real solution is the proper driver, and profiles
> matched to paper and ink. Soon. But you know how that goes: I also
> need an Epson 7500, (and software for it) a CIS, better software for
> my scanner, a glass neg carrier for same, on and on.... all in good
> time.

Yep!

Martin

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