Yeah I'm using FS with the piezo driver. I use museo for those prints that need a looooong grey scale. Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert G. Morrison" <rmorrison@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] museo > Remind me Julian...what's your workflow...are you using the piezo driver? > Are you using the Crane Museo profile...you might also check the Orwell > profile...but in my experience the Museo profile is less compressed in > shadows. > > Robert > > > On 4/10/02 3:30 PM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: > > > It's not the quantity but the quality of black. this shot for eg > > http://www.foundobjectsgallery.com/holga/pages/dancer_jpg.htm prints great > > on PR but really 'gritty' on museo, almost posterised. I'll try making a > > 'lighter' print and then coating once I've got th estuff. I'll try the > > formula from the files page. I'm in the UK soon so I should be able to pick > > the stuff up. > > > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert G. Morrison" <rmorrison@...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] museo > > > > > >> Once you coat them...blacks won't be an issue. The difference between > > 1.57 > >> (Museo) and 1.67 (Hahnemuhle) doesn't even exist once they are > > coated...they > >> are all in the 2 to 2.2 range...and the differences there aren't nearly as > >> noticeable...at least to me. > >> > >> Incidentely...I ran some Museo and Eclipse Satine Softwhite with John > >> Woolf's epson driver workflow with PiezoBW inks last night. As many of > > you > >> know, Museo has about a 1.57 dmax with Cone's driver. Eclipse in > > contrast, > >> runs about 1.4 with the Orwell profile...big difference...you would never > >> use Eclipse. Ditto for the Museo profile with the Eclipse...1.41. In > >> contrast if I use Woolf's workflow I get 1.57 for both papers. The > > Eclipse > >> looks great...really weird. Using this workflow...or one like it I would > >> say the Eclipse is also worth a try with coating. It gives a more satin > >> effect...that I really like when I print the smooth side. > >> > >> Robert > >> > >> On 4/10/02 2:38 PM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: > >> > >>> I want to try coating some prints and I've heard from Robert that Museo > > is > >>> the best paper to use. Whilst I use Museo for continuous grey toned > > prints, > >>> I've always had problems printing deep blacks. has anyone got any tips? > >>> > >>> ulian > >>> ----------------------------------- > >>> Julian Thomas > >>> Bruc 168-6-1 > >>> 08037 Barcelona > >>> > >>> Website at www.foundobjectsgallery.com > >>> > >>> current exhibition: www.thesight.com > >>> > >>> Gallery at http://www.mwords.co.uk/galleryGuests.htm# > >>> > >>> Streetphotography at > >>> http://www.borderless-photos.de/jthomas/jthomas-01.html > >>> > >>> tfno 679676321 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > > other > >>> resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] museo
2002-04-11 by Julian Thomas
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