Paul, Unfortunately I am no expert on color, just an end-user. I make my own color profiles using my Epson 1640U scanner and Profiler Plus. I was always amazed at the detail in the shadows of my color prints, so I tried using one of my color profiles with the quad inks - it worked surprisingly well, with just a slight adjustment curve. The main drawback was the mixing of the inks in the highlights. I believe it was Lincoln Inks who first proposed a b/w inkset matching the densities of Epson OEM inks, so the user could simply print with the Epson driver. Well, I have always found the Epson drivers somewhat lacking when it came to resolving shadow detail. It just seems logical to take that idea a step further, & use profiling software to get a better ramp, as you put it. It also seems logical that the hextone printers, with their light inks, would be a great fit for this kind of system, since the light & mid tones are already partitioned in the Epson driver. The trick would be creating b/w inks that matched the density of a color inkset that would be easy to profile... I don't know if these ramblings are any help. Maybe greater minds will jump in. -BK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> To: "DigitalB&WPrint" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] MIS/1200 Options? - suggestion for non-partitioned workflow > Barry, > > You wrote: > > >... > >Imagine that MIS created a hextone B/W inkset that matched the ink > densities > >of their 6-color pigment ink. We could profile the color inkset & use that > >profile to print either color or B&W from our photo printers. ... > > That might be close to where we are going. The CMY MIS archival pigs may > not have the same visual densities, so there might be a compromise for the > sake of production efficiencies. I'm currently thinking of having the cyan > and magenta densities equal and having the yellow be whatever is needed to > get the best highlights. I think the yellow has lower visual density that > then others, which is why they can get away with only a single yellow ink. > > Whether the new mix is close enough to use the same paper profiles might be > a relevant factor to take into consideration. Different color balance > characteristics of the different papers would, of course, be irrelevant. > However, to the extent the paper profiles deal with keeping the ramp smooth > and even, they would certainly be very useful. > > Any thoughts or ideas along these lines would be most useful to me as I get > into this. I'm not an expert on the color inksets at all. So, I'm really > not that much aware of what profiles exist. > > I suppose the ability to work well with the profiling software would also be > important. Any settings that are needed for that software to do its job > would be most useful to know. > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com > ____________________________________
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Re: [Digital BW] MIS/1200 Options? - suggestion for non-partitioned workflow
2002-04-11 by Barry Kelsall
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