Digital BW, The Print

Last thing from me Nick as Paul and jerry covered just about everything.
Print on EAM and *also* select Matte Paper Heavyweight as your media in the
driver.

Todd

> Nick unfortunately I'm using a different ink mix than you (only for about
> another week!) so I'm not the one to get specific with you about inks. One
> last question though. Have you been using Epson Archival Matte paper? Though
> Paul's curves do work well for many papers they are drafted using EAM, so
> all your testing should begin on that paper to reduce variables!
> 
> Todd
> 
> PS, I don't think AdobeRGB, vs sRGB *should* make a big difference, but lets
> take nothing for granted. Just make it exactly like Paul says until you get
> it working.
> 
>>> What about driver settings:
>>> 
>>> Source: Adobe RGB or sRGB
>>> Space: Same as Source
>>> Custom, Color Controls, Automatic
>>> 
>>> Use Adobe RGB for your RGB space, and Gamma 2.2 for your grayscale space
>>> (subject to correction from Jerry or Paul or Mike) it's working for my mix.
>> 
>> Todd -
>> 
>> So it doesn't matter if the RGB source is Adobe or sRGB? I've already
>> defined Gamma 2.2 for grayscale. Maybe the "Space: Same as Source" setting
>> is off.
>> 
>>> I'd check the MIS site for latest curves and workflow info. Follow the links
>>> for Paul's VT method.
>> 
>> Did that, and downloaded the Roark curves specifically identified for the
>> 1160 printer, and found they're exactly the same as what I've been using
>> (last update in July 2001).
>> 
>>> My only gripe with your black-only method is that it mimics the grain of
>>> your image, but it doesn't reproduce it. There is bound to be circumstances
>>> where the two different "grain" sources conflict with each other. A good
>>> quad setup will describe your image, not recreate it.
>> 
>> A very good point, and certainly a disadvantage of black-only. But I have
>> to solve this posterizing problem before I go any further.
>> 
>>> I also recommend trying over sharpening, as Tyler suggested. Not as a rule
>>> per se, but certainly as a test.
>> 
>> Check.
>> 
>> As Jerry suggested, make
>>> sure your inks are in the right positions. All suppliers have been known to
>>> sell inks in wrongly labeled bottles. It's possible you got two bottles of
>>> inks which are the same density!
>> 
>> Here's what I see in a nozzle test:
>> 
>> First row:
>> Three panels, all densest black (= K cartridge)
>> 
>> Second row, L to R:
>> Very pale (? = 25%)
>> Almost black (? = 75%)
>> Medium blue (toner = yellow = 50%).
>> 
>> If that sequence is correct, then the inks are in the right places. If not,
>> then one or more bottles of MIS VM ink were indeed mislabeled, and they'll
>> be sending me, pronto and gratis, a correct set of labels and another CMY
>> cartridge for me to refill.
>> 
>>> I just participated in the 30 print exchange, and I can assure you none of
>>> the contributors to that are suffering from posterization. It's not normal.
>>> Don't settle!
>> 
>> I won't; it's just frustrating to be sooo close to good-looking output....
>> 
>> Thanks for spending the time to guide me through all this,
>> 
>> -- Nick
>> 
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