Actually the traditional sepia started as a product of cuttlefish
pigment. Quite Brown in color. GOT SQUID?
Jeff
> Paul Roark wrote:
>
> >
> > The sepia tone I ended up with was set after studying my own
samples
> > of old
> > photos and a number of books. I thought the most authoritative
was a
> > French
> > government sponsored History of Photography. I figured they had
the
> > money
> > to make the best reproductions. One thing I think I saw was that
the very
> > common albumen prints seem to become more yellow with age or
light.
> >
>
> This may be very basic stuff for many here, but with the size of
the
> group, I thought it might be good to take a moment and cover this
ground..
>
> "Sepia:"
>
> What is it really?
>
> To my knowledge there are four different, but. at times. quite
visually
> similar, processes that result in "sepia" images.
>
> 1) Fading and sulfidization of silver gelatine prints - in this
> process exhibited by many older prints, both airborne sulfur ions
and
> sulfides left in the print by improper fixing, clearing, and
washing
> will combine with the image silver - in such a case, the sulfide
ion
> joins the silver molecule and a more stable silver sulfide compound
is
> produced
>
> 2) Fading and yellowing of albumen prints - residual sulfates
and
> thiosulfhates from developing that remain in the paper cause
yellowing
> of the paper itself and as in #1 join with image silver to form
silver
> sulfides
>
> 3) Van Dyke Brown/BrownPrint - A process in which an image is
> initially exposed onto silver salt sensitized paper and then
developed
> in a thiosulfate solution -- the sulfur joins with silver of
exposed
> silver salts in the actual developing of the print - this forms a
> brownish image of Silver Sulfides
>
> 4) Sepia Toning - After exposure, developing, and fixing of a
> gelatine silver print, a sulfide or polysulfide solution is used to
join
> sulfur to free silver molecules in the image - the longer the
toning,
> the more sulfide molecules created in the print, and the more brown
the
> final image
>
> The variety of tonalities of "sepia" prints may, in part, be
traced to
> the fact that "sepia" is really an inexact term describing the end
> result of these different processes..
>
> In fact, the tonalities are even wider than it seems.. As in #4
above,
> the final results in hue (more or less reddish or olive-like)
depend
> upon not just the actual toning, but, will appear differently in
> chloride or bromide papers AND depending upon what the actual
developer
> was (warm-tone or cold-tone developers mated with sepia and
differing
> paper types will give differing hues)
>
> We also generally tend to think of selenium toned prints as
purplish or
> exhibiting "colder" tonalities.. In fact that is only true with
Bromide
> papers -- chloride papers when toned with selenium can go to a
reddish
> brown and be mistaken for sepia toned images. Moreover, with some
> chloride papers and a warm-tone developer (PQ or Agfa) followed by
> Selenium toning, I have toned silver gelatine prints to a near
> orange-red image.
>
> Sepia toning, selenium toning, gold toning, etc., were developed
out of
> a need to make silver prints more archival, by preventing image
silver
> from oxidizing.
>
> Given the preceding it should be clear why sepia tonalities are
really a
> personal taste, like the choice of cold or warm base papers, etc.
The
> causes of traditional "sepia" images are varied, and
concomitantly, so
> are the tonal and hue ranges that would be covered by the rubric of
> "Sepia"..
>
>
>
>
> [Keith]
>
>
>
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Re: [Digital BW] Sepia -cuttlefish pigment.
2002-04-29 by iwasnvrhere
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