Digital BW, The Print

hmm .. i think that if someone takes a 640x480 image from the web --
manipulates it, and prints it .. (to hang on their refrigerator) -- they
willl get a print that is far below in quality from something that the
original photographer might be selling

.. the kind of person that would print a low-res scan .. would not have
otherwise bought the print from the photographer -- so i dont see where the
income is lost (he was never part of the market) ..

.. if someone wants to enjoy a low-res, low quality print of one of my
photographs -- more power to them ..

from  a 640x480  image -- at best you could make a 2x3 printout -- and you
would also suffer from artifacts fromt he jpg compression... etc..

i've even posted 800x600 images -- which could print 4x3 -- (with the same
problems of jpg compression) ..

.. the prints i'd like to sell are framed up to 16x20 -- the print itself is
the range of 11x14 ...  quite a different product than a 2x3 or 4x3 print ..
(and much better sharpness, tonal range, etc)

-- ricardo




----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gulstene" <kevin@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Image theft


> I can't believe you really believe this.
>
> > Hi Todd:
> >
> > I don't believe it's illegal unless I try to sell them or even give
> > them away.
> This is wrong. It is illegal to use a copyright image for _any_ purpose
> without the copyright owner's permission.  The only possible way this
could
> be legal is if you used the small image as part of a larger 'original
work'
> where the small image did not form a material or recognizable part.
>
> > I'm just putting them up in my kitchen. It's no different
> > than if I took my Edward Weston: 50 Years signed, slipcased
> > monograph, and cut out those pictures to frame them.
>
> The only way this is the same is if you stole the material you then cut
up.
>
> > I've seen people do it with Ansel Adams calendars.
> > As long as it's for yourpersonal enjoyment and you are not depriving
> > anyone of any income, it's not illegal.
>
> You are depriving people of income by using their images without paying
for
> them. If you really believe this then I assume I am free to plaster my
home
> with the best quality reproductions I can achieve from the images you post
> on your web site.
>
> > I was just trying to make a point that even with low quality scans
> > you can achieve a decent print (if you know what you're doing, of
> > course).
> I understand.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...>
> > wrote:
> >> Rich
> >>
> >> That's some pretty illegal stuff you're up to there. I wouldn't
> > advertise it
> >> so much if I were you.
> >>
> >> Todd Flashner
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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