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Re: Re: [Digital BW] Image theft

2002-05-06 by stevenr@mindspring.com

With a Photo it is 50 years pulse the life of the 
Photographer before the image goes in to 
"public domain".

a play, etc., enters "public domain" 
where it belongs to the public. I 

believe 50 to 75� years is the limit to 
copywrites (depending on what 

the item is). There was a push last year to 
overhaul the copyright laws, 

but I am not sure what happened to that.


So depending on a lot of particulars, there 
may or may not be an issue 

of using these images for personal reasons 
based on copywrite laws. I am 

not saying it's the "proper" thing to 
do, but it is not necessarily in 

violation of copywrite since they may have 
expired.


Truman


Kevin Gulstene wrote:


> I can't believe you really believe this.

>

> > Hi Todd:

> >

> > I don't believe it's illegal unless I try to 
sell them or even give

> > them away.

> This is wrong. It is illegal to use a 
copyright image for _any_ purpose

> without the copyright owner's 
permission.� The only possible way this 

> could

> be legal is if you used the small image as 
part of a larger 'original 

> work'

> where the small image did not form a 
material or recognizable part.

>

> > I'm just putting them up in my kitchen. 
It's no different

> > than if I took my Edward Weston: 50 
Years signed, slipcased

> > monograph, and cut out those 
pictures to frame them.

>

> The only way this is the same is if you 
stole the material you then 

> cut up.

>

> > I've seen people do it with Ansel 
Adams calendars.

> > As long as it's for yourpersonal 
enjoyment and you are not depriving

> > anyone of any income, it's not illegal.

>

> You are depriving people of income by 
using their images without 

> paying for

> them. If you really believe this then I 
assume I am free to plaster my 

> home

> with the best quality reproductions I can 
achieve from the images you post

> on your web site.

>� 

> > I was just trying to make a point that 
even with low quality scans

> > you can achieve a decent print (if you 
know what you're doing, of

> > course).

> I understand.

> >

> > Rich

> >

> > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd 
Flashner <tflash@e...>

> > wrote:

> >> Rich

> >>

> >> That's some pretty illegal stuff 
you're up to there. I wouldn't

> > advertise it

> >> so much if I were you.

> >>

> >> Todd Flashner

> >>

> >

> >

> >

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