Digital BW, The Print

Truman,

What we are doing here is adding to the urban myth. I remind everyone 
that they would be wise to read the law if in doubt. I recently won a 
copyright suit on one of my projects. And BTW, the statute of limitation 
on one of my works is 75 years after my death. So beware, do not copy 
one of my buildings. ;-)

Mike


On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 03:13 PM, Truman Prevatt wrote:

> Copywrite laws are complex at best, some say convoluted.  While it is
> technically illegal to even copy a page out of a book, it is recognized
> that it is not in violation of copywriter laws if this is done for
> personal use, say a student doing a paper, a graduate student
> researching his thesis, etc.
>
> There is also the issue of age of the item being protected. Copywriter
> protection does not last forever. At some points an item - be it a song,
> a play, etc., enters "public domain" where it belongs to the public. I
> believe 50 to 75  years is the limit to copywrites (depending on what
> the item is). There was a push last year to overhaul the copyright laws,
> but I am not sure what happened to that.
>
> So depending on a lot of particulars, there may or may not be an issue
> of using these images for personal reasons based on copywrite laws. I am
> not saying it's the "proper" thing to do, but it is not necessarily in
> violation of copywrite since they may have expired.
>
> Truman
>
> Kevin Gulstene wrote:
>
>> I can't believe you really believe this.
>>
>>> Hi Todd:
>>>
>>> I don't believe it's illegal unless I try to sell them or even give
>>> them away.
>> This is wrong. It is illegal to use a copyright image for _any_ purpose
>> without the copyright owner's permission.  The only possible way this
>> could
>> be legal is if you used the small image as part of a larger 'original
>> work'
>> where the small image did not form a material or recognizable part.
>>
>>> I'm just putting them up in my kitchen. It's no different
>>> than if I took my Edward Weston: 50 Years signed, slipcased
>>> monograph, and cut out those pictures to frame them.
>>
>> The only way this is the same is if you stole the material you then
>> cut up.
>>
>>> I've seen people do it with Ansel Adams calendars.
>>> As long as it's for yourpersonal enjoyment and you are not depriving
>>> anyone of any income, it's not illegal.
>>
>> You are depriving people of income by using their images without
>> paying for
>> them. If you really believe this then I assume I am free to plaster my
>> home
>> with the best quality reproductions I can achieve from the images you 
>> post
>> on your web site.
>>
>>> I was just trying to make a point that even with low quality scans
>>> you can achieve a decent print (if you know what you're doing, of
>>> course).
>> I understand.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> That's some pretty illegal stuff you're up to there. I wouldn't
>>> advertise it
>>>> so much if I were you.
>>>>
>>>> Todd Flashner
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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