The lowered rating of EAM for the new printers (2200/7600/9600) may have more to do with the new inks than the paper. Epson tried to make the new Ultrachrome inks work better with third-party fine-art papers and will be introducing a version of Somerset Velvet (don't know if it is 'Photo Enhanced' or not) made specifically for Epson and these printers. Jeff Greer At 12:54 AM 05/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Its interesting to note that in their new brochure on the Ultrachrome inks >that Epson only rates Enhanced Matte (the EAM sequel) at 30 years while >"Fine Art Papers" are rated at 90-100 years. I think that is probably >reflective of how Epson views the paper. But then again its 1/4 the price >of good paper...and only 1/3 of the life...so I guess it is a good deal! > >Robert > >On 5/4/02 11:55 PM, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > > bjornaagedk wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone! > >> > >> Do someone know if Epson's Archival Matte paper is 100% acid > >> free? > > > > This debate has raged on several forums, and I'm not sure we have a good > > answer to the more difficult question of whether EAM can be expected to > last > > for long enough to be considered "archival" -- whatever that means. > > > > (I've never seen Epson admit that they changed the name due to concerns > > about pigments on EAM not being "archival." The concern I've seen from > > Epson related only to the dye-based inks not being particularly > long-lasting > > on EAM, and, this I believe, has nothing to due with acid in the > paper. The > > EAM surface is optimized for pigments, not dyes. On the other hand, I > > strongly suspect that Epson really changed the name to avoid having to > > substantiate the representation that EAM was "archival.") > > > > At any rate, I have used one of the acid-testing pens on a number of > papers. > > EAM does appear to have some acid in its base. > > > > So, it is not "acid free." > > > > But whether enough acid in the paper to do significant, long-term > damage may > > be a much more difficult question. I believe EAM is made of wood pulp that > > has had the lignin removed. So, it is lignin free, and lignin is > apparently > > the source of most of the acid in modern wood-pulp papers. (The older pulp > > processing apparently used acid, but I beleive such processes are no longer > > used for good, wood-pulp paper.) > > > > Cotton is the purest natural source of cellulose. So, it is the starting > > material that is traditionally preferred for archival paper. However, > > whether modern, lignin-free wood-pulp can make equally-pure or pure enough > > cellulose is unclear to me. I assume that cellulose is the same > chemical no > > matter whether it is from trees or cotton. > > > > I might add that the acid-testing pen appears to be easily fooled by cheap > > buffering. As such, cheap newspaper that yellows and deteriorates quickly > > tests out with the pen as more acid-free than my fiber-based, > > archivally-processed silver prints. > > > > The fiber-based silver prints are probably not buffered, because such would > > be inconsistent with the acid stop bath we use. (It might be fun to > see how > > much a buffered paper sizzles in an acid stop bath.) I've also read that > > Epson does not buffer EAM because buffering was not consistent with the > > maximizing image permanence -- which was (along with affordability, no > > doubt) a primary goal of EAM. > > > > I use EAM without much concern for the question of whether it is acid free > > or not. My conclusion is that image permanence is the more important > issue, > > and EAM is hard to beat on that score. Of the papers I've tested, only > > Eclipse did arguably better -- but it's blacks were not as good. I > also use > > EAM because I like a smooth matte paper, and it produces about the best > > images I've seen. When these attributes are added to the fact that EAM is > > just plain cheap, it's hard to find a better value. > > > > If I found that someone was willing to pay big bucks for my prints, but > only > > if they were on a more "acid free" paper, I'd gladly print on Eclipse. To > > date, no one has raised the issue (or offered big bucks for the prints, > > unfortunately). So, I continue to use EAM. > > > > Paul > > http://www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > and other > > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > > resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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Re: [Digital BW] acid free Epson paper?
2002-05-07 by J Greer
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