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Re: [Digital BW] 8x16 bits and BW

2002-05-23 by Todd Flashner

Austin

 Why do you keep suggesting I conduct tests you know I've conducted many
times over. You don't want to show your results, fine, just admit it, but
please stop telling me to do what you know I've done. I've done the tests
for myself, I've done them for Dan, and I've twice made the scans he's used
for his tests.

As for others, not everybody does have the capability to conduct these
tests, and all they hear is "it's image dependant", or from you that your
images posterize EASILY. My article demonstrated that many of my images can
take robust manipulations without detriment, and I, and perhaps others,
might be interested to know why your images are more vulnerable to it than
mine. It could help to explain WHY there is debate at all on the subject,
and why it is not as cut and dry as some might have them believe. I though
"show and tell" might be more illustrative than tell and tell and tell and
tell.

Now, if you don't care enough to put the energy into it I FULLY understand
that, but please stop making it seems like it's other peoples unwillingness.

Todd

> Hi Todd,
> 
>> You keep saying how easily your images can posterize and if Dan want's to
>> see it, or for lunch at Le Cirque, no problemo, you have images ready to
>> show. However, whenever I ask to see them you waffle.
> 
> Not waffling at all!  Why should I spend my time proving something to
> someone who can easily, with a little work on their own, do the experiment
> for them selves?
> 
>> You also keep talking to me like I don't understand the topic, or know how
>> to avoid posterization in my own images; as if I'm having a problem I'm
>> asking you to solve.
> 
> No, not at all.  I know you understand this, and as far as I know, you don't
> have any problems with posterization.  Others read this discussion, and they
> may not fully understand what you understand.
> 
>> I think you know I scan and manipulate in 16-bit
>> routinely and have a decent knowledge of the subject and how to utilize my
>> scanner, Photoshop, and my printer. I hope that doesn't sound
>> arrogant, I'm
>> not saying I'm good,
> 
> I have seen your prints, and I would say you are good, in fact, quite good.
> 
>> All I was asking you to do was to demonstrate your results - the same
>> results you say you can obtain and recognize in a heartbeat.
> 
> But isn't it better for you (or others) to do it on your own, and see for
> your self?
> 
> You can lead a horse to water... ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Austin
> 
> 
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