Digital BW, The Print

I'm glad Keith began by quoting Martin's civil and reasoned criticism 
of Henry Wilhelm's recent work. Keith's own criticism shows no sign 
that Keith tried to rise either to the standard set for him by 
Martin's example or to the standards set in this list's welcoming 
message.

As for the rude command Keith added to Lynne Siler's subject line: 
"Leave WILHELM out of this", I injected into this thread with good 
reason the name Keith hates to hear. I posted Wilhelm's data on 
Lyson's neutral and sepia quad tone ink sets because those data were 
relevant to Martin's response to Lynne.

Keith seems not to disagree with what I went on to say so much as to 
want to marginalize and harass Wilhelm. I don't think that should 
have any place on this list either.

Sam McCandless                 samcc@...


Keith wrote:

>As for Wilhelm, I posted this today on another list...
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>Where's Wilhelm.?
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>http://www.wilhelm-research.com/       ?
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>The site is STILL under construction! The only thing that changes are
>the images of construction equipment..
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>Two years and counting...  LOL
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>I am amazed that companies still report data from Wilhelm, when all of
>his data seems completely unavailable to the public..
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>He may have a great reputation, but since the EPSON orange-shift debacle
>he seems to have no desire or intent to publicly disclose results...  To
>me that makes his numbers utterly useless except as a marketing tool for
>manufacturers.
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>To all Henry's proponents... I will admit Henry had a great reputation
>and provided for many years an important service to the printing
>community, but, isn't two years LONG enough to put up some data? Or has
>he given up on accelerated testing methods?  Meaning that we should
>expect a 10 to 100 year wait (depending on the archivability of
>particular inks and papers) to see real data from him?
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>IMHO his two year absence and failure to publicly report data has made
>his company an open joke.  I'm beginning to believe the site is there
>solely to placate us, that Henry has NO plans to ever again PUBLICLY
>release his data...  If so, he owes us all a note to that effect..
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>Please note that I have addressed this e-mail to Wilhelm as well..
>Maybe, with the absence of the Leben list, they will deign to answer
>this open letter..
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>If I hear ANYTHING from Wilhelm Inc. I will let people know..  I'm just
>NOT holding my breath...
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>Keith