Digital BW, The Print

Cone has refused to use Wilhelm in the past and has told me that he is
having RIT do the testing of the Piezotones.  I believe that MIS has also
used RIT in the past.

Robert


On 7/4/02 11:36 PM, "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...>
wrote:

> Tim Atherton wrote:
> 
>> So Wilhelm is (or at least was) "the man" in this field.
>>  
>> 
> <SNIP>
> 
>> But his current reputation certainly seems to
>> have taken a rather large dip in the last couple of years. Maybe someone
>> should point this out to the bods at Epson, Canon etc. We view his testing
>> with scepticism now... Having it "Wilhelm Certified" doesn't necessarily
>> mean what it once did.
>> 
>>  
>> 
> Wilhelm reminds me of the "man behind the curtain" in the Wizard of
> Oz... He was seen as almost godlike in Oz until he didn't pay enough
> attention to the mundane and a little dog pulled open the curtain and
> revealed the man with feet of clay behind that curtain..
> 
> Once the reality of being fallible was revealed, he no longer scared,
> nor even impressed...
> 
> In any case, all Wilhelm certification says to me is that a firm had
> enough bucks to buy its way onto his queue.. Without disclosure of full
> results, the limited numbers we get via the manufacturers are so much
> abstract data that can't reliably be compared product to product..
> Perhaps, just perhaps, that is EXACTLY the way the manufacturers intend.
> 
> Let's all hope RIT or someone else starts doing independent testing..
> Of course, if the PC Magazines, especially the Ziff Davis entries, were
> REAL journalistic periodicals, they would test for archivability and
> print display life with every serious competitive review of inkjet
> market entries..  With the lack of ad money around the tech field I
> won't bet on that happening anytime soon either..
> 
> I wonder... This group has about 1600, my group about 1700, the other
> inkjet groups have a few thousand more...   What if we were to begin an
> e-mail campaign to push the manufacturers NOT to use Wilhelm numbers..
> AND along with that we wrote letters to manufacturers and publications
> pushing for real archival data.  We could asking publications to do
> testing or suggest they use RIT or some other lab... I know there were
> some efforts at developing alternative labs and methodologies..  Thoughts?
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
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