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Re: Lyson vs. piezo inks

2002-07-05 by tomoc

Lynne-

I use both piezo driver with MIS and the new piezo tones and in 
another printer the Lyson Small Gamut inks. 

A couple of issues that have come up in this thread. First, the small 
gamut inks are a much newer and better ink than the lyson quads. I 
have never seen any significant metamerism with the LSG ink (but you 
do with the quads).

An advantage of the LSG is that you don't need any special software 
or curves...there are profiles available free from Lyson (that 
include WYSIWYP monitor settings) and all you have to do is ad a hue 
adjustment layer to get the level of toning you desire. This is very 
similar to the VM inks that Paul Roark has developed for MIS but the 
difference is that the Lyson are dye inks and will make stunning 
prints on most glossy papers, whereas the pigment inks are pretty 
much best on matte (and more permanent...longer than I will live <g>).

None of the Lyson inks will work with the piezo drivers.

In my opinion, the biggest advantages advantage of piezo are the 30+ 
paper profiles and the speed it prints at (maybe 3x faster than the 
Epson driver)...and I must say, the new piezotone inks are really 
impressive.

The Lyson is a little fussier... Some papers work better than others, 
etc... But there is no better way to make great glossy prints...and 
certainly it prints nicely on many matte papers (but I use the piezo 
driver for the reasons above to print matte.)

Cheers,

Tom O'Connell

TomOC@...
www.thomasoconnell.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Lynne Siler <lhsiler@b...> 
wrote:
> >>My only comment would be that in the world of B&W photography 
where silver
> >fiber sets the standard, 80 years would not be considered archival.
> >Photographs from the 1800's are still going strong so I think we 
need a
> >print life of 150+ years if not more. This assumes you care about 
archival
> >prints or want to get involved with all the issues around "fine 
art" print
> >sales.
> >
> Thanks for your responses, Sam and Martin. My next question is why 
I read so
> much about piezo inks and rarely hear mention of the Lyson quad 
black inks.
> I ended up trying them because they are much less expensive and 
don't
> require software - so it was just easy! And as I said I think the 
prints are
> beautiful. So, is there something I should know about these inks 
that would
> sway me towards the piezotones? Thanks.
> 
> Lynne Siler
> http://www.lynnesiler.com 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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