Digital BW, The Print

I haven't anything worth adding to what Martin wrote and agree 
especially with his concluding comments.

Sam McCandless          samcc@...


>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sam A. McCandless" <samcc@...>
>To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 5:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Print Life was Epson 2200,1280 and quad tone
>options
>
>
> > >Sam,
> > >
> > >I generally agree with you. I think that the various inks will hold
> > >up just fine although I would bet on the pigments to go a much
> > >longer distance than the dyes.
> >
> > So would I, but the longer they both go the less I think it matters,
> > and on some papers the longer-lasting pigments and dyes alike are now
> > beyond 100 Wilhelm years and still counting. And Wilhelm-year
> > predictions seem to me to tend to under-predict because he uses 450
> > lux for 12 hours a day. That's why I try to never just say "years"
> > but rather "Wilhelm years" (or "Wyrs" for short).
>
>The problem is I really don't have any feel for what a Wilhelm's year of
>display life means in real life. Everything just seems really vague and the
>connection to real prints unknowable.

[big snip]

>I think we each have to make a decision that depends upon what we want to
>accomplish artistically balanced against how much time and money we have to
>work with and an idea of how long we would like our works to last. The
>artistic esthetic has to come first. If you don't like the look of what you
>are printing then why bother.
>
>At this point I think it is quite reasonable to trade some print life for a
>more pleasing look. At this point the most bullet proof grayscale
>system tested would seem to be MIS-FS Neutral on EAM. Unfortunately, I find
>it to be too blue for my tastes. I find the prints I get from the MIS-VM and
>the PiezoTones to be more to my liking and I am willing to accept that they
>may not be as stable as the FS Neutral. Everyone has to go through the same
>set
>of choices and pick a path.
>
>What I really am looking forward to is a set of wedges from the 2200 in
>Paul's fader along with wedges of MIS-FS, MIS-VM and PiezoTone! Whoever gets
>their hands on a 2200 first please get in touch will Paul and send him some
>wedges.
>
>Martin