The last time I checked you can buy the same single malt scotch at Costco in a bigger bottle for about 1/3 the price/oz as you would pay for a smaller bottle at the liquor store. In addition epson gets a lot more money upfront for a 7600 or 9600 than they will for a 2200. It's obvious for the new printers that epson has decided to shift the balance from printer cost to ink cost. Remember at how amazed we were when we heard a 7600 was going to cost $3000 instead of the $5000 they were getting for a 7500 last year? And on the R&D front...it takes a hell of a lot of money to lead in technology...I used to make polymer inks for a living and it was very expensive, time consuming work with someone right behind you trying to rip off your technology at every turn. And remember, Epson isn't out there as a service to us...it has shareholders that expect to get dividend payments. Robert On 7/12/02 4:15 PM, "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...> wrote: > > > CDTobie@... wrote: > >> In a message dated 7/12/02 12:09:36 PM, jerryolson@... writes: >> >> >> >> >>> Makes you wonder about epsons ink prices even more. You can get a pint >>> of MIS inkjet black ink for around $36 or so; epson's prices seem more >>> than a ripoff, they're outrageous. >>> >>> >> >> Well, at least you are now comparing it to a blended whiskey... >> >> >> >> > Come come, Dave... > > That's not analogous.. > > We ALL know that EPSON overprices their inks at a level WELL beyond what > it costs to produce and market them. They are cost-shifting to recover > the real costs of the printer you buy. > > the 7600, 9600, and 10000 have significantly less per oz prices for > ink, not because the ink is cheaper but because EPSON hasn't played the > silly cost-shifting game.. > > It's as if EPSON offered you a single malt scotch for $1 a shot, and > then told you "BTW the glass is $10 and can only be used for one shot" > It makes people think they are getting a cheap printer when they aren't.. > > I can quote some old numbers on ink costs per oz. for the 1270 and > siblings if you'd like, (with inks that wre cheaper than those in the > 2200, estimates on cost of the 1270 inks were between $9600 and $12,000 > per gallon - to hell with oil, gold, drugs, or weapons, let's hijack a > tanker of Ultrachromes!) but suffice it to say that EPSON charges a > minimum of 10 times what others do.. AND BTW: before you say it all > goes to R&D some of that "well spent" R&D money goes into designing ways > to prevent users from utilizing 3rd party consumables.. > > > Keith > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] 2200 Printer
2002-07-13 by Robert Morrison
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