Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Antonis Ricos" <antonisphoto@y..=
.> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...> wrot=
e:
> > Well, I guess it's just the diehards in here on a holiday weekend
> 
> Tyler,
> you are right, except of course for the folks in Germany, France, England=
, Italy 
> and Spain for whom labor day has something to do with May 1st.

My apologies, it's embarrasing to realize I'm being a typical American
> 
> > I prefer to do my edits in grayscale and develop a quad workflow that
> > converts and separates as accurately as possible. 
> In either this or the RGB workflow where you rely on reading grayscale 
> numbers,  be very careful with your gray setup.

Yup, I've run into that problem!
> 
> > One option that hasn't been discussed, have a custom profile made for
> > you, much cheaper. You will confound the people 
> > doing it for you, and maybe their software as well, but if it works
> > you're there.
> 
> I suggested it to Martin earlier in the thread. He figures that at $100 a=
 pop, he 
> could easily spend his money on farming out profiles and have nothing to =

> show for it as hardware goes. And the whole thing is such a moving target=
 
> anyway. What are we going to be arguing a few months from now - or a year=
?

Yes, things do change quickly, though except for incorporating a new inkset=
, paper, tweak, or software, my workflow is 
strangely the same as it was two plus years ago.
I hope it doesn't sound like I'm arguing for this particular method. Actual=
ly it sounds like our workflows are very similar, 
large format Epson (well, my 3000 isn't that large), CMYK , RIP, Piezo ink,=
 Hahnemühle papers. I'd be very interested in 
hearing more specifics about what you are doing.
I tested this RGB profile method quickly when Dan informed us that it works=
. But I already had the tools at hand. Then when 
trying to help Steve Meyers develope a 7000 quad workflow with the Epson dr=
iver, it seemed the perfect opportunity to 
really put it to the test. Other methods would have taken much longer, the =
RGB driver is a bit of a black box, as you 
mentioned. This worked really well from my perspective, but it doesn't mean=
 I think anyone should be running out and 
getting these tools just to get a personal desktop workflow off the ground,=
 I hope it doesn't sound like I'm advocating that.
> 
> I say, more time printing less time fiddling. 

Absolutley, my fiddling ended quite some time ago. It's very easy to get ca=
ught up in this stuff, but when it's done, and your 
images are rolling out of the printer one after another, you remember why y=
ou started. I'm still amazed that it works at all. 
When Steve got his 7000, I was interested in seeing what could be done with=
 this beautiful printer, so got back into fiddle 
mode for a bit, I hope someone here may find some tidbit in these ravings r=
elevant to their current dilemmas.
Tyler