Digital BW, The Print

Mike just got a Mamiya 7II camera and loves it!  I would have one if I
could afford it and about 3 lenses. Great camera !

(You had made the comment that the Mamiya lenses have horrible bokeh
which make them practically useless.) Mike is on several of these lists.

> > Austin, Don't tell Mike Kravitt he gets useless pictures with his mamiya
> > because the lenses don't have Bokeh!
> 
> I don't understand that comment at all.

(Bokeh is) a very important subject to many photographers.
> Because you never heard of it, or it's not important to you, doesn't mean it
> isn't important.

For some photographers, I'm sure it is important, but I've been talking
about landscape photography, where there are precious few areas that are
out of focus.

> > Show me some evidence where leica and zeiss
> > intentionally design their lenses to have great bokeh!!!
> 
> Er, the fact that they have the best bokeh...and it's talked about in most
> Leica books and Erwin Putz talks about it a lot, and it's well documented in
> periodicals and magazines etc.

Where could I find one of these articles that says Leitz designs their
lenses to have Great bokeh? I really do want to see this in print.

Also, could you post an example (Same image) shot with a lens that does
have great bokeh and one that has really poor bokeh so we can see the
difference you are talking about?

Thanks.

Jerry
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