Digital BW, The Print

Jim,

Sounds like you should check out the Sepia-VM inks. If you go into the Files
section you can see some examples by Paul of what can be done with this ink
set to get warm toned images.

Files > Ink Sets > MIS > MIS Variable Mix > MIS VM Neutral-Sepia

You of course do not have the versatile in tone that you would get using a
full color ink set but if you want to stay pretty close to neutral this
might be the better way to go.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Panzer" <jimp@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Duo-tone prints...


>
> Thanks for the Info Martin.
>
> I guess my next question would be this...is it possible to replace
> the bluish toned bottle of ink in the VM set with something warmer and
just
> use the cold curves?  Is there a warmer tone I could just buy that would
be
> compatible with the VM inks?  Do the curves even use the toner ink when
you
> print with the warmer curves?
>
> My other option I am seriously considering is just to sell both
> printers and buy one Epson 2200...do they make a CIS for these all ready?
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Wesley [mailto:mwesley250@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:18 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Duo-tone prints...
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jim Panzer <jimp@r...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Recently there has been some talk of using duo-tones with
> color
> > printers the get a toned print.  I did this recently on an Epson
> 820 and it
> > came out good...at first, then it turned greenish tinted instead of
> the
> > goldish or yellowish tint it originally had.  Is this what is meant
> by
> > "color shifting".
>
> Jim,
>
> Afraid so. You can avoid or lessen this by using a tone farther away
> from neutral. Also by using the pigmented color inks but then
> metamerism is more of an issue. Good color profiles are a great help.
>
>
>   Also, it seems like duo-tones (from Photoshop) would be a
> > great way for people with only a color printer to start printing
> toned, b&w
> > prints, it's funny that more people don't use them, is there
> something wrong
> > with using these pre-set duo-tones?  Thanks.
>
> That's how I started but I couldn't get a consistent tone close
> enough to neutral to satisfy me. I couldn't get passed the split
> toned look unless I got way too warm for my tastes. It looks like the
> 2200 may go a long way towards solving the problems people have had
> doing this.
>
> Martin Wesley
>
>
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