Digital BW, The Print

there are many realisms (truly) and a difference between ABSTRACT and
ABSTRACTED!!!   in art as well as here (i have already said i believe
photography can be art)    in my masters class we did all these
arguments   one is better off to admit that there ARE realismS and
differences, rather than fight to the death over things that really only
keep us from our own visual expressions    if it is all about something
else, it belongs somewhere else    all argument is valid   but all have
a place and here may not be it     (some of you are having too much fun
goading     and this is really not the place)  jno