Barry, Unfortunately we would all like the answer to that question, the ink manufacturers included. We have some ideas from comparison fade tests that some inks appear to be more resistant to fading and warming than other, but what that means in terms of real world life is unknown. As it stands at the moment PiezoTone grays, either WN or Sel, seem to be the best grays and MIS-FSN black is right at the top also. Epson UltraChromes may be a bit better but testing is underway. Regarding MIS-VM the black is the same so it comes down to the grays and toner inks. I believe that Sepia-VM is built on the FS-Neutral grays and performs slightly less well than the PT grays. The standard VM grays are the same as the MIS original Quad inks which are less fade resistant. As for published "display life years" figures by RIT and Wilhelm we have not numbers for these inks. We do know that RIT rated the Generations 4 inks at 100+ years and that the Generation 4 black fades pretty quickly compared to FSN black. I still don't know how to rate those "display years" to real life. One of the big problems is deciding what constitutes "failure". I have RIT results that say failure of a color ink set is when the original density has dropped 30-35%. You and I might consider the fading unacceptable at a point much less than that. Under the conditions you describe you can expect to see some warming but that it will level off or stabilize at some point. All I can say is hang it up and let us know how it does. Provided you live that long. <G> Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "biw3450" <bwolf@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Print Fade > I would be interested to know how long a Piezotone MW print with MIS > FS black ink on EAM paper will last framed and under glass. The print > will be framed and not exposed to direct sun light. It will have a > halogen lamp on it for 8 hrs a day. What about the MIS VM inks? > > Thanks, > > Barry > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Print Fade
2002-09-23 by Martin Wesley
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