Douglas, Flatbeds have come a long way in the last few years and I have seen a number of great prints made from flatbeds scans. George DeWoolfe had nice article on using the Epson 1640 and wet mounting negs in View Camera magazine a year or so ago. I did a comparison between my Epson 2450 flatbed, a Polaroid SS120 and a Howtek D4000 drum scanner. In doing comparisons there is a huge jump in quality in moving from the Epson up to the Polaroid. The several thousand dollar price difference seems somewhat legitimate. In going from the Polaroid 120 to the Howtek there is improvement but not nearly so dramatic. As you go up the price and quality ladder you spend more and more for less and less improvement. The real bind, and the one I found myself in, was the need to cover 35mm through 4x5. If all you needed to scan was 35mm and MF then I would go with one of the MF film scanners unless money is not an object. The flatbeds can work quite well for scanning 4x5 especially something like the Epson 1680. The problem is that in order to do all your negs you will really need two scanners. A film scanner and a flatbed. That is the route I initially took. I first bought a Linoscan 1400 (1200ppi flatbed) for 4x5 and MF, and a Polaroid SS4000 for 35mm. I quickly found that the Linoscan was not good enough for MF. So I sold the SS4000 and bought the SS120 for both my 35mm and 6x7 negs. It does a very good job of both. I did some 4x5 scanning on the Linoscan 1400 but I really wasn't satisfied when comparing the quality to the SS120. So I started looking at the Polaroid SS45U 4x5 film scanner which sells for about $5,000. Some investigation found that I could get a used drum scanner for the same amount of money and I went for that. It makes great scans but it is a little nervy spending that kind of money for a 10 year old piece of equipment from a company that no longer exists. It also weighs 150 lbs, has a 2' by 3' footprint and is rather noisy if it is in the same room with you. Of course if I had simply bought the Howtek first I would have saved myself a lot of money. Nothing against West Coast Imaging but I would always want to do my own scans even if they were on a lower quality scanner. This is a very important step in the digital printing process and I want full control of it. Cost is a factor here too. They are charging $80 for a 100MB scan. I am doing 4x5 4000ppi, 500+MB scans on the Howtek and resampling down to 2400ppi to a file size around 200MB. I don't know what that would cost but the scanning charges would pay for a lot of nice equipment pretty quick. Hard choices. Keep asking questions and maybe you can figure out which way to jump. Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Anthony Cooper" <douglas@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: The State of Personal Scanner Technology > > I haven't looked into this for some time, and since things change weekly, > I'm wondering whether it is now possible to buy a desktop scanner capable of > getting the results once associated only with professional scans. Or is > there still a huge leap in quality between what can be produced at home, and > what West Coast Imaging can produce with their Tango Drum Scanner? > > I recognize that this question depends very much upon film format and degree > of enlargement. I do, however, shoot medium format and 4x5 as well as 35mm, > and is it perhaps possible, with an affordable flatbed, to get professional > results out of these larger images? > > West Coast Imaging argues that you should have them do your scanning *and* > your printing, for the best results. Clearly most people here feel that > they can get the prints they require out of their personal Epson. Is > scanning also at this level? > > (This is not an implied criticism of West Coast, who are by all accounts one > of the very best shops. Simply wondering whether the dedicated individual > can replicated these results.) > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: The State of Personal Scanner Technology
2002-10-10 by Martin Wesley
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