Digital BW, The Print

Austin, film can not record 15 stops of information without much 
overexposure and underdevelopment.
Digital can record as much as film. Of course you have to
use all kinds of adjustments in photoshop to pull out the data, but it 
IS there. I do this every day Austin, and
I'm telling you my digital prints are better than my darkroom prints, or 
your darkroom prints, or anyone elses
darkroom prints, assuming the same image is used for both. More shadow 
detail is easy to capture in digital. Just
take 2 images  of the same subject, expose one for shadows, one for 
highlights, and run an action that combines the
best of both. I do it on  every photo I shoot, if it needs it. NO 
problem. I'm of course talking of tripoded
images, and landscapes. no movement. If I want better highlight detail, 
I shoot for it and combine it. It probably
already is in the image, and can be had by skillful use of multiply 
blending modes. There is no arguing with you as you
always have a technical reason for why something can't be done as well 
digitally as well as film. All I can say is I have
40 years experience with darkroom printing and 15 years with digital 
printing, and can make better prints from any
source digitally than I can in the darkroom. Millions of people all over 
the world can, Austin, I don't know why you can't.

:).

Jerry


> Whether an image looks "VERY good" or not, has nothing to do with the image
> containing "better highlights and shadow detail".

Why of course it does. In most photographs, you want all the highlight 
and shadow detail you can get.
Not ALL photographs, but most.


>>If
>>you can't get better highlight and shadow
>>detail out of photoshop and digitial than you can a darkroom print, you
>>simply don't know your craft very well.

> I don't understand what Photoshop as to do with it.  Either the information
> is there in the image file, or on the film, or not.

It has EVERYTHING to do with it. I'm talking about a LOT of photoshop 
adjustments to surpass the results
of film. No image is just a straight image, just like no image in 
darkroom photography is "Just" a straight print!


> B&W film can record up to 15 stops of image information.  

With a LOT of developing technique knowledge, yes.

Digital imaging
> sensors can't use compensation development, obviously, and are subject to
> simply the sensitivity of the sensor, and they are limited to 11/12 stops at
> this point in time.

Makes NO difference in the final prints. I can pull more detail out of a 
digital image in photoshop than
you can in a darkroom print.

Jerry

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