Martin, Thanks for your comments. I tried it last evening. I think you are correct...Spectrocam doesn't read the low values accurately or consistently. Mr. Tucker's comments regarding taking pictures rather than being so techno-anal were well expressed and appreciated. I am more than enough in the ball park with respect to the curves I have made and the "out of the box" ones from Paul Roark...I have finally settled on a paper, and now it is time to get to work!!! After a while, all this "what is blacker" and "what paper is sharper" becomes very subjective. IMHO, photography is more about the image than the process...at least for me. Best...Craig ----------------------------------------------------- http://www.craigsterling.com "Photography with a Sense of Place" > From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 00:43:23 -0700 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] My Spectrocam as a Densitometer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig J. Sterling" <craig@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] My Spectrocam as a Densitometer > > >> Greetings, >> >> I have checked the Archives, but cannot find an answer. >> >> I have a Spectrocam Photospectrometer that I use in conjunction with >> ProFiler Pro software for generating colorsync profiles when printing from >> my 7000. I have just discovered how to measure densities using the >> Spectrocam...WOW! >> >> While I can read the densities of my gray scale step wedge printouts, > these >> numbers are sensless without a reference. Any suggestions on how I can > come >> up with a set of "base-line" numbers or values for each of the steps on a > 21 >> step grayscale? >> >> Appreciate any advice you folks might have...Craig > > Craig, > > I am not sure what you are looking for as a base-line number. The Spectrocam > is giving you Visual or Neutral density and this is an actual measurement in > log form of how much light is reflected from what you are measuring. Density > = log10(1/Reflectance) > > As a guideline, paper white is usually in the range of 0.06 to 0.08. Silver > fiber prints have a Dmax values ranging from 2.0 to as much as 2.8 depending > upon brand, development and toning. Carbon pigment inkjet prints have Dmax > values in the 1.4 to 1.9 range depending upon ink, paper and workflow. 1.6 - > 1.7 would be a typical values. > > A word of caution on the Spectrocam. It does not accurately measure > densities above 1.7. Antonis did a comparison between a X-Rite 810, X-Rite > Digital Swatchbook and a Spectrocam. Both the Spectrocam and the Swatchbook > read low as the density exceeds 1.7. It may be that these hand held units do > not have a bright enough light source to get good readings when the matte > blacks get really dark. > > Martin Wesley > > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >
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Re: [Digital BW] My Spectrocam as a Densitometer
2002-10-20 by Craig Sterling
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