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Re: Yellow EAM (Outback curve)

2002-11-01 by Stephen Kobrin

Chris,

It is obscure, but you will find it at 
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop/photoshop_corner/essay_17/essay.h
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The downloads are at the bottom of the page.

I have been using an adjustment layer with an s curve before I print 
and it often helps a lot.  While I am relatively new to quad 
printing, at least on my system, the monitor image needs to be a 
little bit exagerated to get some snap into the print.

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Chris Hargens" <ldmr@c...> 
wrote:
> I'd like to experiment with the curve you mentioned, but I couldn't 
> find it at the Outback site. Could you direct me to it? Thanks.
> 
> Chris Hargens
> 
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "A. Huntley" 
> <prasepe@a...> wrote:
> > Don't know if this message made it to the group because I 
received 
> something back from Yahoo indicating that it bounced...so...I'm 
> trying again...
> > 
> > I know this hasn't been discussed lately but, recently, I picked 
up 
> a box of 8.5x11 EAM from my local CompUSA (batch 02CC2004M) for 
> experimenting with some B&W conversions of color images. 
Immediately 
> upon pulling the first print off the printer I noticed that it 
looked 
> slightly different from what I was used to seeing. Remembering the 
> discussions on this forum about "yellowish" EAM with newer lot 
> numbers, I pulled out my trusty supply of "old" A3 EAM and compared 
> the two. The newer paper was visibly more yellow than the old!
> > 
> > Feeling the desperation begin to set in--what will I print on 
when 
> my A3 (my primary size) runs out?--I began experimenting with Photo 
> Rag; my favorite paper when I used Piezo inks. I selected a 
grayscale 
> image that I was very familiar with and began printing it using 
> Paul's neutral-cool and warm-neutral curves along with gamma 
> adjustments, and toner variation via the yellow slider. I should 
> mention that all my quads are produced on an 1160 with MIS VM 
inkset, 
> and Paul's curves for this printer. My goal was to match, as 
closely 
> as possible, the same image previously printed with the Piezo 
driver 
> and PiezoTone ST inks. Figuring that the ST inks had warmed some I 
> knew that an exact match certainly wouldn't be possible. But, I was 
> just looking for something close...and I think I found a possible 
> solution. Using the warm-neutral curve with the yellow slider set 
on 
> 0 (that is, no change) and applying a +1 contrast adjustment curve 
> that I downloaded from outbackphoto.com, I was able to produce just 
> about the most stunning print of this particular image, to date. 
And, 
> though the tonality was not exactly the same as the Piezo print 
> (naturally) the overall and local contrast was just about a dead 
> match. The VM print...somehow...look brighter, though! I was very 
> excited, and plan to experiment with this technique further using 
> other images.
> > 
> > Just thought I'd let the group know the ramblings of yet another 
> quad printer pushing for something "a little different" and 
a "little 
> better!"
> > 
> > Happy printing,
> > Alan
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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