Digital BW, The Print

I hate to keep saying this but SOME pigs are worse archivally than SOME
dyes. HP pigs are easily beaten by Ilford dyes on the right paper. Why are
we being suckered into 100 year archivability? Should watercolour artists
not use watercolours because they are not 100yr - or sculptures not use iron
because the blacks go brown? How long should a photo last? Everyone was
happy with C-type, Ilfochrome, Iris etc which many dye based inksets now
match or surpass. Mark - if you want the image to be right why not just
accept what has become the norm for colourprints if you can find a dye/paper
combo you like??

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: <sdmey4@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 9600, chip resetters


> In a message dated 11/18/2002 8:18:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> mark@... writes:
>
> > After all my bellyaching, I might still actually consider a dye
> > version of the 9600. I'm back to that age old question: is it better
> > to have a print that looks great today, but that might fade in time,
> > or one that's unexciting now, but you know that it'll remain
> > consistently unexciting for decades to come?
> >
> > I come back to two visions:
> > Dyes: Charcoal Blacks
> > Pigments: Veiled Blacks
> >
> > MT
> >
> Mark, with integegrity, and the utmost in high standards being at the
heart
> of your work, How can you risk your reputation and consider a dye based
> printer?
> One premature fade episode and your screwed! Better off going to lightjet?
> I think a gallery rep or curator should decide for you, or at least give
an
> opinion. Maybe your too close to the forest to see the trees? Your stress
is
> even giving me chest pain 3000 miles away. Your the only one I can think
of
> that is very unhappy with the ultrachrome blacks, but if Mark Tucker isn't
> happy with the look, then I have to look at my own standards and raise the
> bar if I can.
> Any idea if image print delivers a better black with the matt black inks?
> No 9600! still on the fence.
> Steve M.
>
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