Digital BW, The Print

Tony,

You are well within the group guidelines. If you haven't read them, 
please read Post #1 towards the end, for what Antonis and I expect 
from members of the group who are also selling or manufacturing items 
that the group will be interested in.

Most of the negatives from my end are not direct at Indelible Inks 
specifically but at the current state of the quad ink business in 
general. I am currently frustrated that some of the commercial 
interests do not get out of the wagon and do a little pushing on the 
software side themselves.

You have been around this for a while and I am sure you appreciate 
that there is a lot of sensitivity to keeping the list as an open 
forum for all the various techniques and products out there with no 
ties or obligations to any commercial venture.

Your information is of interest, both the quads and the color set as 
they may apply to monochrome printing. We will be happy to pick your 
brains for you. <<g>>.

Martin Wesley


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tony Caltabiano" 
<calpen1@a...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> Well, I have read everyone's comments about this subject, and you 
all 
> have a lot of good points, and I agree completely with what the 
> general feelings seem to be.
> Now, in light of all that here comes the part I am almost terrified 
to 
> say on this list.  I am a dealer for indelible inks.
> No, this is not an attempt to soft spam, or sell any ink.  Here is 
> where I am coming from:
> 1.  first and absolutely most important, I am an artist like 
everyone 
> else on this list.  I have been for the last 32 years of my life.  
I 
> have been an ink dealer for 2 days.  
> 2.  Like a lot of people on this list, I haven't found the the 
perfect 
> ink to match my oil paintings, my photographs, or whatever I have 
in 
> my head.  Is this new ink the answer we have been looking for?  
Hell 
> if I know!  I saw the ink, talked to the guys who makaes it, and 
> decided it was better than what I was using (fotonics for color), 
and 
> using up Cone for BW.  
> 3.  I have coughed up the money, and the ink will be in my 9000 
this 
> week.  Hopefully within a couple more weeks I will have a color CIS 
> system in my 890, and some sort of quads in my 1160.  I am a user, 
I 
> have invested in this, and I can be a gunnea pig and share my 
> experiences.
> 4.  If this ink is lousy stuff, I will be more than happy to tell 
you 
> all, as I hate salesmen who don't deliver, I don't want to be in 
> leaque with them.  My investment in this ink is less than that of 
> Cone's system, so I've lost money before on promises that don't 
> deliver.
> 5.  I have a spectrocam and profiler pro.  I can make profiles for 
> paper/ink combo's.  I will provide them free for anyone who wants 
> them.  As for curves for BW I can make those too, but I am nowhere 
as 
> good as Paul Roark is at it, or others, but whatever I come up 
with, 
> you all are welcome to it.
> 6.  All I ask in return is that I get respect as a fellow artist, 
not 
> a spammer.  If you want to ask me a question on this stuff go for 
it.  
> I will give you the best answer I can.  If you want to see samples 
> (once I get established) I would be happy to provide them. 
> 7.  I agree this list should be off limits to any spam or sales 
> pitches.  I will stick to that.  I am a dealer not to get rich, 
just 
> in hopes I can quit my weekend job as a picture framer!
> 8.  In the spirit of this group I would hope you all keep an open 
> mind.  
> 9.  If anybody has read my gushing statements about this ink on the 
> inkoptions list, it wasn't a sales pitch, I really liked the 
stuff.  
> I'm an artist, I'm allowed to get excited over pretty colors!
> 10.  I hope this message diffuses a little of the negative tone the 
> list has toward this ink.  I have absolutely no input whatsoever to 
> the way they make the ink, package the ink, sell the ink (except 
for 
> me) or run the company at all. Since none of the other users have 
> stepped up to the chopping block, I thought I would.  It looks like 
a 
> good ink, and I think it has just had a rough start.
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> Tony