Digital BW, The Print

Todd:
Your wish is almost my command.

I am working with Norm at MediaStreet (Generations Ink) to develop a set of
profiles for the Generations ink. This set of profiles will be setup for the
Generations ink, Epson 7000 printer, MediaStreet Paper and Hawk Mountain
paper. These profiles will be sold through my web site and MediaStree's
site.

I know I hear the screams --- why only the 7000? Because that is the printer
I am currently using. It takes time and costs a huge amount of money to
create professional profiles. First you have to print all the paper samples
then have the profiles created by a good house. Then the samples have to be
reprinted and the profiles have to be tweaked again. This may take two or
three times of tweaking until you have a set of profiles that are able to be
sold.

We are still in our first round of tweaking and they will not be ready for
another month. Are we going to make profiles for other printers? Maybe,
maybe not. It will all depend on how well the profiles for the 7000 are
accepted.

I know you said you would pay $30.00 for a set of profiles. You are probably
one of the few. Everyone wants something for nothing. Sorry, life does not
work that way. It cost money to developed these products. We have to recover
our costs.

I also can also hear the screams that if we give these profiles away the
masses will buy more of the product. That is also not true. You see it on
this list already. Someone announces a new ink or paper and you can almost
hear the thunder as this mass rushes to this new product.

I hear you and am trying to do something about it. It may not be exactly
what you want for your purpose, but hopefully someday I'll have an answer
for you.


Jim Davis
http://www.visual-artists.com
jarthurdavis@...
mail to: jarthurdavis@...
Supplier of fine art printing products.




> Martin,
>
> Don't MIS, Generations, and all the cheapo refillables companies do the
> same-- put their product on the market for the buyers to do as they see
fit,
> and sell profiling kits down the road? Not saying it's a good practice,
but
> lets not single these guys out either.
>
> I'm rather surprised some smart, enterprising, individuals (several
persons
> on this list come to mind), don't create profiles for some of these
> inks/printers/papers, and sell them at Shareware prices. I'd think they
> could get a link on the ink/paper dealer sites, and generate a tidy little
> income. For instance, if I were buying a set of Generations inks for my
> Epson 1200, I'd gladly place my order with Mediastreet, then click the
link
> to JoesPROfiles.com to pay $30 for a set of 10 paper profiles for that
> ink/printer combo. Heck, between you and me, I'd pay more than that, but
you
> get the idea.
>
> Now I'm not the clever type, so the time/cost of making these things is
> probably eluding me, but I'm assuming these profiles might be generated in
> the course of an individual making profiles for his own use, and thus
they'd
> be capitalizing on an investment already made.
>
> Todd
>
> > Tyler,
> >
> > I completely agree with you. The more options we have the better. For
> > someone with your experience a new ink set is all in a day's work so
> > to speak. I know that it is a tremendous amount of work to build all
> > the profiles and curves, but you do have the ability to do this.
> >
> > Most of us do not. So when I read that it is another set of inks
> > without software support, I am finding it more annoying. I don't want
> > to see another MIS situation where people like Paul have to design
> > all the curves with no support from the manufacturer and then
> > distribute them for free.
> >
> > I would like to see a change in the way these companies do business
> > so that they don't even bother to announce the inks until the are
> > willing to provide printer profiles or drivers as well.
> >
> > My 2 cents.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...>
> > wrote:
> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Mark Tucker" <mark@m...>
> > wrote:
> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tyler Boley"
> > <tyler@t...>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> check this out-
> >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InkOptions/message/62
> >>>> Haven't tried it yet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Haven't we established the clear fact that it's best to have
> > loyalty
> >>> to groups that aren't run/managed by manufacturers?
> >>
> >> Mark, all,
> >> I tend to think another ink possibility for quads is "news" since
> > none of them do exactly what I want yet. I'll take
> >> information anywhere I can get it.
> >> I was just saying there's another ink out there, ya know?
> >> ?
> >> Tyler
>
>
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