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Re: [Digital BW] metamerism confusion

2001-09-11 by Robert Morrison

On 9/10/01 8:53 PM, "daviddstock@..." <daviddstock@...>
wrote:

> Inkjetmall's own samples on Somerset Velvet have nice grays,
> but do not have what I personally consider to be a rich black,
> even when compared to what other archival inks can do on this
> paper. If their own samples can't convince me, I really have to
> wonder.

Somerset Velvet is an uncoated paper intended for Iris printing, not inkjet
printing...blacks are very poor compared to the Hahnemulle papers (such as
Orwell or Wells River in Inkjetmall nomenclature).  When Antonis built his
paper database containing dmaxs he didn't even test sommerset velvet because
the blacks are so poor.  The quality of blacks are totally the consequence
of paper coating/ink interactions.  If you haven't looked at Antonis's paper
database yet you should...its posted as a part of this discussion group.
The quickest measure of a paper/piezo black potential is the dmax.  If you
think the blacks on a piezo print with orwell are weak...I would be quite
surprised.  Remember, the blacks on any matte paper are going to seem weak
compared to a semi-gloss or gloss paper.  If your intent in using a
pigmented ink system is to make archival prints, the semi-gloss and gloss
papers are not archival with dyes or pigments. If you want that effect with
piezo you simply need to coat the final print made on a matte fine art
paper.  These prints are archival.  Once the print is coated the dmax of
these prints are equal to the best of the gloss papers.  For more
information on coatings see the Varnishes or Alternative Coatings threads in
this list and in the piezography3000 list.

Robert

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