Deep black today, no black tomorrow, is no black at all in the Cone book...and mine too. I would encourage you to look at coating possiblities with the Piezo or other pigmented inks. Piezo inks on some "unapproved" papers like the Kodak Ultima Satin or Prophoto Silk are as good or better than any dye system on gloss papers when simply sprayed with a light coat of krylon to seal the pigment. If you want archival...then as I mentioned previously use an archival paper with pigmented inks and a couple coats of an acrylic clear coat...once again the blacks come raging in. Robert On 9/11/01 12:44 PM, "daviddstock@..." <daviddstock@...> wrote: > > Maybe the final word on his ink belongs to Jon Cone (from the > Color Piezo newsgroup): > > "We have thought about coming out with a more traditional > pigmented BW ink which would incorporate more dye into the > mix; supplied to those who wish to print on glossy materials. But > longevity of such an ink would be compromised in favor of > compatibility with more traditional looking photo gloss materials. > Our current BW ink, being a very heavy and concentrated pigment > base is just too dense for gloss materials (and we have had the > best minds in paper development working on alternative gloss > technology to no avail...) > > Pros and Cons: > > Pros of a dye in a pigmented ink, is tinting strength as it reflects > back less white light than pigment - it appears darker or more > saturated to the eye. It allows for customization of a > monochromatic ink. If heavy in presence will allow printing on > gloss coatings and allow for greatest paper compatibility. > > Cons of a dye in a pigmented ink: metamerism, reactions to > paper coatings disproportionate to their presence (i.e the > chemical compound of the dye molecule and the coating mix > produce a reaction - this can occur whether lots of dye or trace > dye. ---------------------- Robert Morrison rmorrison@... 310-397-2704 4131 Bledsoe Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90066
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Re: [Digital BW] piezo black (was metamerism confusion)
2001-09-12 by Robert Morrison
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