Loris - I've not tried this and I'm just thinking out loud (I've not had your symptoms with 308 PR or 190 WT) but how about a curves move before going to RGB where you just bring in the blackpoint. You could do a series of black square tests in small increments to decrease the amount of black laydown stopping where you measure a decrease in density? Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loris Medici" <lorism@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Need help - PiezographyBW and Dot Gain Curve > > Hello Jeff, > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Randall <jrandall@...> [mailto:jrandall@...] > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:01 PM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Need help - PiezographyBW and Dot Gain Curve > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Loris Medici" > > <lorism@t...> wrote: > > SNIP > > > 2) Low CYAN usage [It seems that the Randall curves/Epson driver > > > combination substites CYAN with BLACK and this makes a negative > > > influence on hue/chromacity I think] > > SNIP > > > > Hue/chromacity are color terms. Grayscale shades (brightness, value, > > lightness) are what are important to B/W. > > Then why there are Selenium, Cool, Warm, Sepia, Variable Mix, Neutral > inksets present around? > > > If the combined black/cyan > > inks yields the correct tone, then there is no problem. > > > > Differences in lightness/darkness of midtones and darks between the > > RGB Partitioned Workflow and PiezoBW is completely a matter of taste. > > There is no absolute correct way to divide the grayscale range > > printed on paper between the value of the paper and pure black ink. > > Jeff, first of all let me tell that I'm very grateful and greatly > appreciate your efforts to design this workflow and I use it with > pleasure. I want to thank you (and many others that share their hard > work with the rest of us). Please understand that I'm not trashing your > wonderful workflow just looking for a less ink laying alternative (the > wavy prints I get using light papers - EAM and HPR max. 192 gsm - are a > concern to me). > > Best regards, > Loris. > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Need help - PiezographyBW and Dot Gain Curve
2003-01-10 by Julian Thomas
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