Digital BW, The Print

Shilesh,

My VM 3.5 RC-compatible inkset is based mostly on MIS's UC clone inks that
only MIS has.  So, it wouldn't do any good to publish the formula for that
one.

The inkset I'm most interested in for my own use is the Epson-Archival VM-S.
I have at least one more iteration of mixing before that formula is final.
If MIS opts not to mix it (soon) I might mix it myself &/or publish the
final formula.

I think MIS will get the VM 3.5 going soon, because they will be getting
calls for it.  I'm sure Zeiss wants to put the mix through a series of tests
before selling any, but the UC clone inks that make up most of the mix are
MIS's.  So I'd hope he has fairly thoroughly tested those.

He may also be waiting for a competitive black ink.  His current matte black
crashed in my fade test.  (Not bad compared to last year's inks, but this is
no longer last year.)   I think he now has access to the latest high-load
matte black inks, so he may be ready to go soon.

(I might add that I would not throw away the FS/VM K yet.  I'm not sure the
high-load inks are printing as well in the standard Epsons as the older
inks.  I'm wondering if the viscosity needed to hold the high load of
pigments isn't pushing the older Epsons beyond their design limits.  It just
seems like I see more roughness, artifacts, banding and clogs with the
high-load blacks than with the old FS/VM K.)

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Shilesh Jani <shilesh.jani@...>
[mailto:shilesh.jani@...]
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:56 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] For Roark:: RC Compatible Inkset (UC type) was MIS
VM Inks with Roark


  Paul,

  Since MIS is not yet offering this inkset, and we don't know if they
  ever will, is there any chance you would share the dilution formulae?
  I would be glad to try it out.

  Regards.

  Shilesh

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
  <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
  > Bill,
  >
  > You wrote:
  >
  > >... I have had almost no clogging problems in the two years
  > >or so that I have used MIS VM and other inks in my 1160 ...
  >
  > I think some printers seal their heads better than others.  If that
  head is
  > not properly sealed when it is parked, there will be trouble.  Also,
  there
  > appear to be climate/humidity/elevation variables.
  >
  > >... I would give a big thumbs up to the MIS VM ink set
  > >and Paul's curves method of making black and white prints.
  >
  > I'm glad they are working for you.
  >
  > > On the other hand, I have yet to see a glossy paper that
  > >accepts pigment inks without problems ...
  >
  > The RC (glossy) paper-compatible VM inkset is in my 1160 as I write
  this.
  > It runs on the standard VM curves.  Because the base gray ink is a hair
  > warmer than the base MIS quad ink used in the old vm inkset, the
  standard
  > 1160 NC curve prints near dead neutral on most papers.
  Specifically, it's
  > 0.01 unit cool on EEM, 0.01 unit warm on PhotoRag, dead neutral on Epson
  > Photo Paper, and 0.01 unit cool on Premium Luster.  Eclipse Satine
  prints
  > cold, but with the Medium Warm curve, it's dead neutral with the new
  VM (my
  > formula VM 3.5).
  >
  > VM 3.5 has a slight (0.005 - 0.01) magenta bias, avoiding any hint
  of green
  > and having that "selenium" look that I and many others prefer.
  >
  > The base inks are a combination of MIS UltraChrome clones and Epson
  Archival
  > black pigments -- no dyes. I've tested the MIS UC light black that
  is the
  > basic ink, and it tests out as good as the UC inks.
  >
  > This new VM is an UltraChrome-class inkset that, like the UC inkset,
  will
  > print on RC papers if you use an appropriate black.  The Epson Archival
  > black is the top of the heap, in my view, but MIS has a pure-pigment UC
  > clone Photo black that also works fine and, I assume, will be much
  cheaper.
  >
  > I have no idea if or when MIS will mix this ink.  E-mail MIS to find
  out.
  >
  > Paul
  > http://www.PaulRoark.com


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