As a customer and user of IP (with no fiscal interest at all in COLORBYTE (no S on the end), I can say that they are far, far from sleazy. They are extremely responsive to customers and, as a small company, can actually do fixes very quickly. With IP4 and some (not a lot) of Epson 10000CF printers, there was a banding problem. They actually wrote a new driver for this small batch of printers in a very short period of time. Based on your messages, I'm not sure if you are generally suspicious (which is a good thing since it's your $$)or just not sure about new stuff. It would seem that the simplest solution would be to get the demo version of Imageprint from Colorbyte and try it. You can't download this; they'll send it. S. -----Original Message----- From: peter nelson [mailto:peter@...] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:00 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing?? At 12:19 AM 2/9/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: >I am using the 2200 for both color and grayscale. My results with George >Lepp's profiles are very good. My results with Imageprint 5 are spectacular. >Lovely tonal scale, very smooth transitions and minimal (almost not there) >metamerism. I have carried a print to various places (tungsten, OttLite, >fluorescent (most varieties), daylight, etc. >I am really considering IP5 as a part of the 2200 "system." Since metamerism is a property of the ink, how/why would a RIP or a profile be able to fix it? I've been reluctant to invest in a RIP that costs almost as much as the printer, since the real purpose of a RIP is not color adjustment, but managing and automating a commercial print shop. Most of the features that you're paying for in the IP RIP have no relevance to amateur photography printing. But in any case I still want to hear how a RIP fixes metamerism. Also, I contacted Colorbytes to ask where i could see sample output and they said they don't "do" that. It made them seem rather sleazy to me. BTW, I've also talked to other people who say that got better results with the Epson grayscale balancer than with the IP RIP, and other people who say they they don't see any metamerism with the default Epson profiles. ---peter Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-09 by Shire,Stanley
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