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RE: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??

2003-02-09 by Shire,Stanley

As a customer and user of IP (with no fiscal interest at all in
COLORBYTE (no S on the end), I can say that they are far, far from
sleazy. They are extremely responsive to customers and, as a small
company, can actually do fixes very quickly. With IP4 and some (not a
lot) of Epson 10000CF printers, there was a banding problem. They
actually wrote a new driver for this small batch of printers in a very
short period of time.
Based on your messages, I'm not sure if you are generally suspicious
(which is a good thing since it's your $$)or just not sure about new
stuff.
It would seem that the simplest solution would be to get the demo
version of Imageprint from Colorbyte and try it. You can't download
this; they'll send it.
S.

-----Original Message-----
From: peter nelson [mailto:peter@...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:00 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW
printing??

At 12:19 AM 2/9/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
>I am using the 2200 for both color and grayscale. My results with
George
>Lepp's profiles are very good. My results with Imageprint 5 are
spectacular.
>Lovely tonal scale, very smooth transitions and minimal (almost not
there)
>metamerism. I have carried a print to various places (tungsten,
OttLite,
>fluorescent (most varieties), daylight, etc.
>I am really considering IP5 as a part of the 2200 "system."

Since metamerism is a property of the ink, how/why would a RIP
or a profile be able to fix it?

I've been reluctant to invest in a RIP that costs almost as much
as the printer, since the real purpose of a RIP is not color
adjustment, but managing and automating a commercial print shop.
Most of the features that you're paying for in the IP RIP have
no relevance to amateur photography printing.   But in any
case I still want to hear how a RIP fixes metamerism.

Also, I contacted Colorbytes to ask where i could see sample
output and they said they don't "do" that.  It made them seem
rather sleazy to me.

BTW, I've also talked to other people who say that got better
results with the Epson grayscale balancer than with the IP
RIP, and other people who say they they don't see any
metamerism with the default Epson profiles.

---peter






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