--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, peter nelson <peter@s...> wrote: > At 02:00 AM 2/11/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > wrote: > >Besides, ImagePrint and PowerRIP can do it, so it's not like it's > >impossible either... > > > I'm still waiting for someone to explain how they get around > the metamerism problem. (assuming they do, which is > why I wanted Colorbytes to send me samples so I could > see for myself.) Several theories have been advanced, mostly > involving not using one color or another but no basis has been > provided for any of these theories, even though they would > be EASY for IP owners to test. I have a B&W print from the 2200 using the ImagePrint 5 RIP. It's quite cool/neutral and doesn't suffer much from metamerism. Looking with a loupe there doesn't seem to be many color inks dots. I don't know the internals of either the Epson driver or of IP5 so I can only speculate based on what I see. I t appears that the Epson driver uses quite a bit of CMY inks as well as the light black ink to produce intermediate grays. Colorbyte with their IP5 product has on the other hand tried to woo the B&W people --- and made a point of using the light black ink as much as possible to replace the CMY inks. I.e. they don't mix CMY to make gray at all they just use a lot more light black. The other part of the answer is that the black and light black inks are very warm colored i.e. they already have a lots of yellow in them. So IP5 uses very small amounts of C and M to get the correct neutral gray. So this is why you get the quote "it uses no yellow ink". I don't know if the yellow ink really is bad -- I suspect its just a matter of not using much color inks at all. So its pretty much that IP5 provides a good two ink duotone system out of the 2200. I use an old 1160 with three gray inks and a sepia ink. This is a very good three ink tritone system that stands up very well to the new stuff. Roy
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Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Roy Harrington <roy@harrington.com>
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