Its a 'digital' BW paper i.e. RC colour paper. Laser printers are RGB machines so all paper is going to be colour. There are labs in London that produce good profiled neutral BW prints - the lab I use gave me their profile so I proof through their profiles to my printer (which is also profiled). You'll need to do some tests of how to present an RGB file, but that is a once only test. I'm enough of a geek to get sucked in by inkjet printing until I realised that i was spending waaaaay to much time on it. Mwords have kindly agreed to do my printing when people specifically request the Photorag look. I'm using various 1160s for al my proofing - including colour. The 1160 with dyes (for colour) produces the largest gamut of any Epson printer, so I'm sure of being able to match an output device. I'm still spending an awful amount of time on PS - but at least that is creative! Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Terlecki" <ajt@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing?? > On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:34:25PM +0100, Julian Thomas wrote: > > Peter, what can I say?! Having tried all manner of BW I no longer use > > inkjets to print - I output to Lambda. I've found a lab with a perfect > > profiled setup and I get prints I'm happy with. If you have the PS chops and > > a fully managed workflow - use inkjet (I use MIS FS and a modifed Randall > > workflow) to proof, and then output to Lambda. I spent far too long > > buggering around with workflows and inks and paper. No more! > > > > Is that output to B&W paper or is the lab just printing a neutral print to > colour paper? Do you find shadow detail is still there or do you have to set > new endpoints for lab prints? > > I'd love to find a lab that does runs with a LightJet or Lambda using B&W paper, > I've not heard of one which will do that yet. > > Tony > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "peter nelson" <peter@...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:37 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing?? > > > > > > > At 06:34 AM 2/11/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > > wrote: > > > >There's an awful lot of complicated discussion going on in this > > > >thread. The simple answer to the question posed by the title of the > > > >thread is this: > > > > > > > >"Around April, 2008." > > > > > > So you've heard some rumors about the 2008 PMA show? > > > > > > Actually your answer is the CLOSEST one I've heard since > > > starting this thread!! As I said originally, I need to decide > > > whether to make a major upgrade to my darkroom, which I > > > only use for black and white. But I was kinda hoping > > > that digital black and white would soon be far enough along > > > that I could get comparable results with comparable consistency > > > and comparable hassle and learning curve, digitally. > > > > > > I want to know when that's going to happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Julian Thomas
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