Digital BW, The Print

I think the only answer to all this is go to a lab who does all the various
kind sof printing and pay for some samples. You'll get the best output from
each source and you can work from there.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: <Bob@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:18 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??


> Peter: FWIW, my expereince was that you can load MIS VM ink carts in a
> 1280, use the Roark workflow and get same quality prints in the amount
> of time necessary to learn how to do the same in a wet darkroom.
> Ditto, the MIS FSN inks with Woolf workflow. Ditto, Black Only using
> Clayton Jones workflow. None will be great but at least the quality as
> a beginning wet darkroom worker having spent the same time.
>
> BTW, Epson replaced my 1280 under warranty even after I told them it
> was ruined by a 3rd party flush cart.
>
> Bob Michaels
>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, peter nelson
> <peter@s...> wrote:
> > At 09:27 AM 2/12/2003 +0000,
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > >Are you asking when simple reliable BW printing will be available or
> > >when it will be available using color inks on the 2200?
> > >
> > >If you insist on using the the 2200 and color inks you will, it seems,
> > >not be happy with the results.  If you use quadtone inks ( I only have
> > >experience with MIS or Piezotones) you will get the quality you are
> > >looking for.
> >
> >
> > I don't care if I use the 2200.  I'm happy to use any wide format
> > (13"x19" or bigger) printer.  The requirement is that the process
> > does not void the printer's warranty and that I have some reason
> > to be confident that *I* can get good results.
> >
> > As I said in my original post, I have no doubt that SOME people
> > can get quads to work well.   But the impression I get from
> > reading this forum and others is that it's hit and miss, and that
> > it depends on your tolerance for tweaking and playing under
> > the hood.   I've read tons of posts from people who tried it
> > really hard and never got good results.   I quoted one poster
> > who said he tried quads for a YEAR and didn't get as good a
> > result as his first print out of the box with his 2200.
> >
> > I can teach anyone to make decent black and white prints
> > in the darkroom in a day.  Not necessarily Ansel Adams,
> > but black blacks, white whites, continuous tones (assuming
> > they exist in the negative, properly developed, fixed, etc.
> > It's a simple, predictable, straightforward process.  If you
> > can follow simple directions it's easy.  I'm looking for a
> > digital printing process that's similarly straightforward and
> > reliable.
> >
> > Some people here tell me we already have it; others say it will
> > never exist, so there seems to be some divergence on that
> > point!
>
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