Also, whenever I see people talk about MIS VM inks, I never see mention of metamerism. Is this because it does not exist??? Please say yes. :) --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "carlislematthew <carlislematthew@h...>" <carlislematthew@h...> wrote: > Here's how it happened, from start to beginning. Please excuse the > terseness, but I'm sure you've all heard it before so I'll try and be > brief. The question is at the end if you want to skip the crap. > > -Bought 1280. Loved it from the start, but paper choice and profiles > sucked for "archival" color work. B&W using color sucked more. > > -Didn't like the idea of paying hundreds for Piezography or similar > system, so never bought that. Didn't know about MIS inks or similar > things at the time. I wish I had known about this forum!!! > > -2200 came out! Reviews (not from Epson) talked about how wonderful > the B&W output was. No metarism apparantly, and anyway I had no idea > what the hell that actually meant. Had gray balancer - wonderful! > > -Bought 2200. Color work is excellent. Can use favorite semi- gloss > paper without it looking like crap, and it will last more than a year > or two, so I can now give pictures away without feeling cheap. > > -B&W not so good. Getting neutral gray almost impossible even with > gray balancer. I start to quickly learn about metamerism in the same > way that you learn very quickly about a rare disease you just > caught. I wasted about 100 bucks on paper and inks with Gray > balancer and still am not there. > > -Start looking into these RIPs. Download PowerRIP demo (thanks > Daniel). Actually looks pretty damn good (I recommend trying it), > but still is not there for me because I'm just really fussy. 0-10% > looks fairly dotty. Thought about IP5, but 500 bucks is a bit much. > Metamerism still exists but it is VERY reduced over normal color > B&W. Can't say why - no flatbed scanner or microscope. > > -Use BO mode. Awful awful awful. I agree with Peter that some > people just can't see the dots. That's great for them, but it really > bugs me. It just doesn't look smooth. Not good enough. Bah. > > -I start to look over at my old 1280 sitting in the corner. I never > got round to selling it, and that would probably only get me about > 200 bucks. Can't get Imageprint for 200 bucks, PowerRIP still > doesn't cut it at that price. > > So that's my history in B&W printing. Thank God I live in Seattle > and the thought of being outside taking pictures is just nowhere in > my mind. If I lived somewhere nice I'd feel bad that I have spent > all this time on my "photography hobby" with nothing to show for it. > > Why am bothering to tell you all this? Well, I'm thinking about > using the old 1280 with MIS VM inks and those Roark curves. From > reading other posts it seems like I might up and running in an > evening or two, especially as I'm quite good with printing step > wedges and messing around with curves. > > Would anyone else recommend this as a good setup? Anyone else had > the same experience and gone back to the old, rejected Epson? > > Thanks in advance! > > Matthew
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Re: 2200 for color & 1280 for B&W
2003-02-13 by carlislematthew <carlislematthew@hotmail
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