Paul, could you send a couple sample prints with the new inkset, IF the blacks are as good as your present 1280 Curves. I will pay for the paper, inks and postage. If I like them, could I slowly change my present inks to the new set just by putting the new bottles in place of the old ones? (Are the inks compatible?) I usually use your NC Cool curve, or the Cool curve. On Aspen and Legion Photo Matte, the coldest curve is too cold. My normal selection is +7 Magenta (blue toner) in the color sliders, and your NC curve. This seems to produce the tones I like. When you say or talk about selenium tones, does that mean something different that I think it does? When I used to tone prints in the Darkroom with selenium toner, I got deeper blacks. Nothing else. I keep hearing people saying their selenium prints had a purple tone, but I don't ever recall having a purple tone to my selenium toned prints. Jerry Paul Roark wrote: > Jerry, > > >>what is the MIS VM 4.3 inkset? > > > It's my latest mix. I suspect MIS will produce it soon. > > I basically needed an inkset for the 7500 that was up to date. The old vm > didn't quite meet my current criteria. > > My first attempt on the 7500 was a dual-black, vm-s inkset (Museum black in > the K spot, Epson Archival black in the cyan spot). This arrangement > allowed software switching of the blacks to print on RC paper. That aspect > of the inkset worked fine, and I'll probably put together a vm-s inkset that > uses the dual-k approach in the future. The concept works -- RC and matte > printing without the hassle of switching blacks. > > However, the Epson Archival black-based inkset failed for two reasons. > First, diluting the Epson ink with the clear bases that were available to me > changed the rheology (viscosity, etc.) of the ink such that I had banding. > Second, the Epson Archival black-based inkset, in the midtones (which were > diluted Arc K) faded and warmed about like the old diluted MIS FS-K. This > is not the level of performance I was looking for. > > So, I needed a good inkset fast, since I have a lot of printing I need to > get to. The MIS VM inkset works very well on the 7000, so I decided to just > update that inkset. The MIS UltraChrome clone Photo and Light black inks > were ideal for this. They are extremely lightfast and also RC compatible, > for those who care. > > So, UC VM 4.3 is an updated VM inkset that uses the same curves, is much > more lightfast, and is RC compatible (if Photo black is used in the K > position). > > While I was at it, I tuned the inkset (pigment toner) to match my > lightly-selenium-toned silver prints when the "NC" curve is used. The nc > curve produces prints that are just like the PiezoTone Selenium prints. > > The "warm" curve, which prints with, essentially, the raw MIS UC Light Black > ink (pure carbon -- no color added), gives an image that is about twice as > warm as the old MIS VM inkset. The CMY distribution is almost identical to > the old albumen prints (based on a good reproduction from the Getty of a > 19th century Gustave Le Gray print), but with less saturation than the Le > Gray re-production. It is not a full-on sepia, but a very nice warm tone > that is so close to the light sepia I was using that I'm not sure I'll need > any more. > > So, for me, it hits the tones I need right now. The nc curve matches my > silver prints, and the warm curve gives me the tone I need for the old photo > reproductions I'm involved with. Most importantly for me, it works well in > the 7500 and is very light fast, so the prints I make are going to have a > good long life. > > I'd be curious about your reaction to the inkset. Each curve will print a > little warmer than the current vm inkset. However, you have a "cc" curve > that should still be ice cold. > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] UC VM 4.3 (was Epson 7500 what inks should I use?)
2003-02-18 by Jerry Olson
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