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Re: [Digital BW] UC VM 4.3 (was Epson 7500 what inks should I use?)

2003-02-18 by Jerry Olson

Paul, could you send a couple sample prints with the new inkset, IF the 
blacks are as good as your present
1280 Curves.  I will pay for the paper, inks and postage. If I like 
them, could I slowly change my present inks
to the new set just by putting the new bottles in place of the old ones? 
(Are the inks compatible?)  I usually
use your NC Cool curve, or the Cool curve.

On Aspen and Legion Photo Matte, the coldest curve is too cold.  My 
normal selection is +7 Magenta (blue toner)
in the color sliders, and your NC curve. This seems to produce the tones 
I like.

When you say or talk about selenium tones, does that mean something 
different that I think it does?  When I used
to tone prints in the Darkroom with selenium toner, I got deeper blacks. 
Nothing else. I keep hearing people saying
their selenium prints had a purple tone, but I don't ever recall having 
a purple tone to my selenium toned prints.

Jerry


Paul Roark wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> 
>>what is the MIS VM 4.3 inkset?
> 
> 
> It's my latest mix.  I suspect MIS will produce it soon.
> 
> I basically needed an inkset for the 7500 that was up to date.  The old vm
> didn't quite meet my current criteria.
> 
> My first attempt on the 7500 was a dual-black, vm-s inkset (Museum black in
> the K spot, Epson Archival black in the cyan spot).  This arrangement
> allowed software switching of the blacks to print on RC paper.  That aspect
> of the inkset worked fine, and I'll probably put together a vm-s inkset that
> uses the dual-k approach in the future.  The concept works -- RC and matte
> printing without the hassle of switching blacks.
> 
> However, the Epson Archival black-based inkset failed for two reasons.
> First, diluting the Epson ink with the clear bases that were available to me
> changed the rheology (viscosity, etc.) of the ink such that I had banding.
> Second, the Epson Archival black-based inkset, in the midtones (which were
> diluted Arc K) faded and warmed about like the old diluted MIS FS-K.  This
> is not the level of performance I was looking for.
> 
> So, I needed a good inkset fast, since I have a lot of printing I need to
> get to.  The MIS VM inkset works very well on the 7000, so I decided to just
> update that inkset.  The MIS UltraChrome clone Photo and Light black inks
> were ideal for this.  They are extremely lightfast and also RC compatible,
> for those who care.
> 
> So, UC VM 4.3 is an updated VM inkset that uses the same curves, is much
> more lightfast, and is RC compatible (if Photo black is used in the K
> position).
> 
> While I was at it, I tuned the inkset (pigment toner) to match my
> lightly-selenium-toned silver prints when the "NC" curve is used.  The nc
> curve produces prints that are just like the PiezoTone Selenium prints.
> 
> The "warm" curve, which prints with, essentially, the raw MIS UC Light Black
> ink (pure carbon -- no color added), gives an image that is about twice as
> warm as the old MIS VM inkset.  The CMY distribution is almost identical to
> the old albumen prints (based on a good reproduction from the Getty of a
> 19th century Gustave Le Gray print), but with less saturation than the Le
> Gray re-production.  It is not a full-on sepia, but a very nice warm tone
> that is so close to the light sepia I was using that I'm not sure I'll need
> any more.
> 
> So, for me, it hits the tones I need right now.  The nc curve matches my
> silver prints, and the warm curve gives me the tone I need for the old photo
> reproductions I'm involved with.  Most importantly for me, it works well in
> the 7500 and is very light fast, so the prints I make are going to have a
> good long life.
> 
> I'd be curious about your reaction to the inkset.  Each curve will print a
> little warmer than the current vm inkset.  However, you have a "cc" curve
> that should still be ice cold.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
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