Digital BW, The Print

Shilesh,  First, the Image Print RIP does not give as fine a dot 
pattern on the 2200 as the Piezo on the 1160 does.  

Second, the IP RIP tone is much cooler.  There is a color picker 
option for toning, but this has given me problems in tonal 
seperations.  

That said, the IP RIP looks technically better in terms of clarity of 
shadow detail and brightness of highlights.  The IP RIP is also 
more trouble free.  My 1160 is giving me subtle banding even 
with all heads clean and an apparently perfect alignment.

I will probably end up using Epson RIP or IP RIP for my b/w 
printing, but Piezo still looks darn good  and I'll stick with it until 
my 1160 totally dies.  Frank

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"Shilesh Jani <shilesh.jani@s...>" <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> Hello Frank,
> 
> Can you describe how qualitatively the 1160 Piezo prints are 
better 
> than the 2200?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"culturalvisions 
> <fmward@h...>" <fmward@h...> wrote:
> > When I talked to Epson Tech Support they said that the new 
RIP 
> > showed no difference in b/w printing compared to the 
standard 
> > 2200 driver.   ETS said there was  no consideration in 
improving 
> > b/w performance when the RIP was designed.
> > 
> > I have the Image Print RIP with the 2200 and the Piezo 
system 
> > with the 1160.  The IP RIP is technically cleaner with great 
> > rendering of shadow detail and consistent highlight 
> > containment.  BUT I think the 1160 Piezo looks better.  Even 
with 
> > the color variations allowed by the IP RIP the Piezo is more 
> > pleasing to the eye.  ALSO the 1160 Piezo system has a finer 
dot 
> > pattern than the 2200 IP RIP.  
> > 
> > There is almost no metamerism with the IP RIP, I believe, 
> > because there is no yellow ink.  This has probably been 
stated 
> > before.  
> > 
> > Frank
> > 
> > http://www.photoeye.com/frankward
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"Vincent 
> > Orlando <orlandovl@h...>" <orlandovl@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Didn't look at any non rip prints. He was testing the rip to 
see 
> if 
> > > it would in fact print dead neutral-which it did
> > > 
> > > Vinny
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> > "plnelson2003 
> > > <peter@s...>" <peter@s...> wrote:
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> > "Vincent 
> > > Orlando 
> > > > <orlandovl@h...>" <orlandovl@h...> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Geo DeWolfe is the editor at large for Camera Arts mag 
> > and has
> > > > > been testing the Epson 2200 with Epson Rip. Those 
are 
> > the
> > > > > prints I looked at.
> > > > > Dead Neutral
> > > > 
> > > > And could you see the metamerism in the non-RIP 
prints?