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RE: [Digital BW] Re: OT Canon 10D

2003-02-26 by Austin Franklin

Hi Jerry,

> Austin, I don't know how to more clearly state it. The foveon was
> sharper and the overall quality was better than the D60. Simple as that.

I believe that you believe that, but sharpness is simply irrelevant to image
quality in the sense we are talking.  You can make any image sharp.  Also,
more pixels will actually give a less sharp image, and as I've stated time
and time again, I can give you a two pixel image that is as sharp or sharper
than ANY image you can get anywhere.  Quality, well, that's certainly
subjective.

> You must have been a clinton lawyer.

No.  He would have done jail time if I was.

> Always want to know what "is" is.

Yep.  Me too.

> You know a good quality print from an average print. You know a great
> quality print from a very good quality print. I'm not putting the foveon
> chip against a 4x5 scanning back. Overall it simply was better overall
> than the canon D60, which I own, and love.

Well, the print YOU saw YOU believed was better than a print YOU made from
YOUR D60.  If the same person were given the same data file and spent the
same amount of time and effort on your D60 image, you would not be saying
the same thing.  It's a game, kind of a con game in my opinion.

Regards,

Austin

> jerry
>
> > > For all practical purposes Derek, the Foveon 3 megapixel is
> equal in all
> > > respects to a 9 megapixel chip, because of its unique design.
>
> > Absolutely not.
> Absolutely.
>
> > > I've I've
> > > seen side by side comparisons of huge enlargements and the foveon is
> > > sharper than the D60.
> >
> > So what?  I can make an enlargement of a two pixel image and it will be
> > "sharper" than the D60.
>
> C'mon Austin, you know perfectly well what I mean here.
>
> Sharpness is an exceptionally bad metric.  It may
> > be the attribute YOU consider important in an image, but it is not an
> > attribute of the quality of the imaging device, period.
>
> How about ability to separate out fine detail then? More detail than the
> other one.
>
> Overall quality. Resolution, sharpness, detail, the picture any
> professional would choose over the other one in a side
>
> > Austin

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