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Re: [Digital BW] Re: OT Canon 10D

2003-02-26 by Truman Prevatt

No it is a 3 meg sensor - period. The others also have 1/3 of the 
resolution that they claim. There are a lot of ways to measure 
resolution on the bench and in any of those the Foveon is 3 megs. Step a 
red laser across it you will get 3 megapixels. Step a blue laser across 
it you will get 3 megapixels. Step a green laser across it  you will get 
3 megapixels. You cannot invent additional sensors than are not there. 
Of course if you step a red then blue then green laser across a 
conventional sensor you will get 1/3 the number of sensors advertised. 
The whole digital camera market is a shell game of inflating numbers. 
When you can put any of them on an airplain at 100,000 feet and read a 
license plate on a car - I will be interested. Until then I'll stick to 
film.

Truman



Jerry Olson wrote:

>Yo Austin.
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>>>Remember it
>>>was a comparison between a 9 megapixel chip (foveon)
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>>No.  The Foveon (at least the one we are discussing) is a THREE M pixel, not
>>9.  You are confused about what a pixel is and isn't. 
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>You are confused. TECHNICALLY it is a 3 MP chip. It has the exact same
>quality that anybody elses 9 meapixel chip has. That is the whole point
>behind the foveon chip.
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>>You don't lose detail, you just don't get any more by upsizing.  If you take
>>two images.  One from a 3M pixel camera, upsize it to say 9 M pixels.  Then
>>compare it to a 9M pixel image, the 9M pixel image will have a lot more
>>detail.
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>THE FOVEON HAS THE SAME QUALITY AS ANYBODY ELSE'S 9 MEGAPIXEL CHIP. THAT
>IS THE WHOLE
>POINT BEHIND THE FOVEON PHILOSOPHY. IT IS DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY.
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>>>Nobody could tell that if they were upsized or not. I'm only speaking of
>>>12x18 inch prints on 13x19 inch paper here. Not billboards.
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>>Er, I probably could.  I do it all the time.  The issue is, if you don't
>>know what detail isn't there, you don't know that it's missing.  Sharpness
>>does not require detail, they are two entirely different things.
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>I doubt you probably could.
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>BUT I'VE MADE COMPARISONS WITH FILM. FILM IS NOT BETTER IN ANY WAY
>WHATSOEVER FOR AN 18 INCH PRINT !!!!!
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>ENOUGH	!
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>WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS TOO MANY TIMES ALREADY.
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>JERRY
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