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Re: [Digital BW] Re: OT Canon 10D

2003-02-26 by Jerry Olson

Austin, have you actually seen the results of a foveon chip? seen a
direct comparison with anybody else's 6 megapixel chip? If you have,
what did you see?


Do you know the people who invented it? They are not chopped liver.
They are quite famous scientists.

I don't care HOW you put the numbers together or HOW technical you want
to be. I only care about results. and I know the Foveon has more detail,
sharpness, resolution, or whatever you want to call it than the Canon
D60 chip; at least that's what the prints show me.

So enough already.

> No, Jerry, you don't understand how this works.  I design these things for a
> living, and have been doing so for 25 years.  I know quite well how this
> stuff works.

Then you must have read a LOT about the foveon chip and the principles
behind it. 

> The issue with the Foveon is it isn't solving any problems.  In fact, it
> creates some that don't exist with traditional Bayer pattern CCDs.  It has
> low light problems, and color fidelity problems.  It's a nice idea, and so
> far, in my book, fails in implementation.  I still have high hopes for it
> though.

That may be. It's only the first generation. But it ain't bad for a
first try.
> 
> > BUT I'VE MADE COMPARISONS WITH FILM. FILM IS NOT BETTER IN ANY WAY
> > WHATSOEVER FOR AN 18 INCH PRINT !!!!!
> 
> THEN YOU ARE USING LOUSY FILM, PERIOD.  Then you are saying Provia film is lousy film.

I doubt that very much.
> 
> > ENOUGH        !
> >
 
> Yes, we have.  You don't understand how the Foveon works, and why it is
> still only 3M pixels and why a 9M sensor Bayer pattern sensor DOES HAVE 3x
> the resolution of the 3M Foveon sensor...it's a FACT, and any belief
> otherwise is simply your not understanding how these work.

Not doubting your facts at all. Only the results I see.

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