Thanks for the lone (so far) compliment. That's all I ever meant. MY images are as good as 100 Provia if you don't go much beyond the 13x19 inch print size on a 1280 Printer. I suspect the actual chips canon and nikon use in their D100 and D60 are the same quality. Usually, nikon and canon have been about equal in quality since I began photography. Canon has a few sharper lenses than nikon and nikon has a few that beat canon. My next digital, and probably the last one will be a Canon, IF it has 11 or 12 megapixels, and IF it costs under $3000 street price. I'll simply wait for that to happen, as we all know it will. In the meantime, I'm quite satisfied with my D60, as you can probably tell. It put the Fun back in photography again for me. Jerry > Hi Jerry, > > For once I agree with you! I bought a 6 MP Nikon D100 recently (despite all > the things I've said about lack of pixels in digital cameras in the past), > and I have been amazed at the pictures I've produced with it (and so have > most of my photographic friends). It is so much easier to produce a good > 18x12 from the D100 (with some upsampling to give 240ppi) than it is from my > Nikon LS4000 scanning Provia 100F (taken on a Nikon F100) and printing at > 360 ppi without upsampling. I use the Raw file output, and process with > Nikon Capture 3.5.1 (better than Adobe Camera Raw in my tests). > > Why are they better? Well, having no film grain or grain aliasing, no > 'pepper grain' microbubbles in the film, no dirt on the film, no film > processing deposits, no scanner depth of field problems, etc, certainly > helps. It seems to me that number of pixels/sensors is just one parameter to > be considered (6000:24000 for D100:F100/LS4000:), but the 'quality' of those > output pixels is equally important. Don't ask me what goes on in the > processing algorithms of Nikon Capture, but the end result is very nice. > Nikon Scan does not do the same for the four-times-as-many pixels from my > scanner. > > Perhaps another reason why I get better pictures is the fact that I can use > much faster shutter speeds with my D100, just by switching to a higher ISO > setting (manually or automatically), and since I only occasionally use a > monopod, I guess using the higher speeds is reducing camera shake > significantly. The extra noise from the higher ISO's is often liveable with, > or if excessive for my taste, is easily removed by Neat Image (a very nice > little program). > > In the space of just 3 months and one two-week holiday in the Canaries with > my D100, I've switched from supporting Austin to agreeing with you. Well I > never! > > Bob Frost. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> > > > Austin, I don't care about arithmetic, numbers or bayer patterns. I only > > can tell you what my eye sees. That's > > good enough for me. Before I got my D60 camera, many people said it > > couldn't possibly equal film at 12x18 inch film print. I think you were > > among them. Well it can. And I will not get into a debate with you as > > you will only say that's impossible. Sorry, but it is possible and my > > prints prove it to anyone who has seen them. > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: OT Canon 10D
2003-02-26 by Jerry Olson
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