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Re: [Digital BW] Technically Perfect Print was: Uncoated Papers

2001-09-20 by Brian Mikiten

Jerry -

  I taught photography and large format workshops across the US for several years and have to completely disagree with the statements you make on "the proper print" having certain tonal values. (yes, I read your exceptions but I feel like making comments) Now...that said...I have to mention that I used to believe this too until I started looking at some platinum and other types of prints which were deep in mid-tones and repleat of whites and blacks. My own style is fairly Adams/Sexton/Weston (yeh, right) and Piezo printing took some time to accept but I have learned that the old school of needing a dmax and dmin is probably not reasonable as a rule. I'm getting better about judging the image and not the tones. I used to preach this to students and now have to take the advice myself. I used to get stuck on getting a dmax and dmin and noticed later that the image stunk. <G>

Brian

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry Olson 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Technically Perfect Print was: Uncoated Papers


  Harvey,

  Try to imagine one of Ansel Adams prints without a proper black. Think
  it would be impressive? If he just had charcoal grays where blacks
  should have been, I doubt if he would have been considered a good
  printer. Most (but not all) landscapes need that deep black to make a
  satisfying print.  And please keep in mind I did not say ALL prints
  should have a deep black.

  At school, we were always taught that a proper print, except high key
  prints, should have a paper white, a full range of grays, and a black,
  somewhere in the print that was as deep as the paper could produce.

  In fact if a print did not have these qualities, it was an automatic
  reprint. I had Boris Dobro as a teacher, and he was a master printer.
  World Class.

  Jerry



  SKID Photography wrote:
  > 
  > I think it's unfortunate that you seem to have such a limited view of what can comprise a 'beautiful' image.
  > To be hemmed in by perfect black and pure white seems so limiting, when there are ranges of emotions to evoke.
  >nfo/terms/

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