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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Optimal DPI

2003-03-01 by Shire,Stanley

IMHO the 2200 is a very nice printer. Better than my (lately lamented)
1270.
That said, the grayscale images with the Epson driver show metamerism
(not nearly as bad as previous printers, but still there.) For this
reason I bought IP5. The IP5 grayscale prints are excellent. Minimal
metamerism (and you have to get into some fluorescent situations to see
it.) Daylight, tungsten and D50 tubes look excellent.
I agree that if Epson knows how to produce a "neutral" print, they
should have included this capability with the printer. Is this yet
another graybalancer issue? 

-----Original Message-----
From: mh <mh@...> [mailto:mh@...] 
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:09 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Optimal DPI

I am not sure what you are fussing about, aren't the 2200 series 
supposed to print great B&W just with the regular driver? I think epson 
assumes that that is fine for the majority of users (considering it is 
so much better than what was available as a stock solution before).

-mh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nelson <
peter@s...>" <peter@s...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Frost" 
> <bobfrost@b...> wrote:
> > Peter,
> > 
> > Surely the answer is simply that the vast majority of people who 
> print with
> > Epson printers do not print in B&W and do not want to. B&W printing 
> is a
> > specialised market.
> 
> If it were that specialized why did Epson bother to include
> a black and whiter sample with the printer?  Why do they
> advertise the printer's black and white printing ability 
> in their sales and marketing literature?   Why do they have
> a special Grayscale program and test reference?
> 
> The point is that if they are going to do it all, and they
> know HOW to do it right, why not just do it right?   Their driver
> has a black only, and a color setting.   They could have had
> a "black and white" setting that uses the same algorithm that 
> their RIP uses.    And don't forget, Epson released a special driver
> last year for the 2000 that attempts to correct for metamerism.
> 
> Or they could sell a special "black and white" printing option
> if they wanted to milk it for money.   But it's bizarre to 
> only have that feature in a RIP since a RIP, as was pointed out,
> is a very specialized piece of software few people need.



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