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Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test results)

2003-03-17 by Julian Thomas

well mine is. and I've had it serviced twice. There really is no comparison
with scans I've done on both a Minolta and Polaroid film scanner of the same
neg.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test
results)


> Julian
>
> The 1680 cannot be producing softer scans than the 3200 and I am getting
> excellent results with just PS sharpening.  I have definitely found
> artifacts appearing when doing any sort of sharpening in the scan
software,
> especailly is smooth, even tones such as blue sky.  I have also found that
> UltraSharpen Pro produces much better results than plain USM.
>
> Simon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
Test
> results)
>
>
> > You are dead right - it is better to leave sharpening until PS, BUT the
> > optics in the 1680 are so soft that I need both. BTW I only do this in
> BW -
> > for colour I do all the sharpening (I use Ultra Sharpen Pro) in PS. One
> test
> > I do is to take a blank neg and use a sharp knife to make a score and
then
> > experiment with various amounts of sharpening to get a fine line.
Flatbed
> > scanners IME just cannot get the sharpness of a film scanner. People
talk
> > resolution numbers all the time but ignore the 'look' of scanners. I
note
> > that this is happening with cameras i.e. the Kodak is 'better' than the
> > canon because it has more megapixels, noone seems to be bothered about
the
> > image quality!
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alessandro Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
> Test
> > results)
> >
> >
> > > Julian,
> > >
> > > do you get better results with a pre-sharpening at scan time? I always
> > read
> > > that it's better to leave the sharpening to Photoshop.
> > >
> > > Alessandro
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> > > > Sent: domenica 16 marzo 2003 12:06
> > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was:
Epson3200 -
> > > > Test results)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  I cannot get satisfactory scans (sharp) without applying 3x3
> > > > > pixel unsharp mask in the scanning application (Silverfast Ai 6).
> > > >
> > > > Me too on a 1680. I need a 3x3 in the scanner software plus the
usual
> > > > unsharp mask tricks in PS. Just as an example - I had some
> > > > scans done on a
> > > > minolta of 6x6 cm negs. On the 1680 I have to use the same
> > > > amount of unsharp
> > > > mask on a 600x600 pixel 75ppi jpeg as i did on the 4800ppi
> > > > minolta tiff
> > > > file. Colour is harder as the 3x3 gives me a halo effect. I've
started
> > > > shooting a BW landscape project (ok Nij stop laughing) and the
lackof
> > > > sharpness is pissing me off big time
> > > >
> > > > Julian
>
>
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