Digital BW, The Print

Julian

I must be losing the thread here.  What Polaroid and Minolta are you
comparing scans with?  If the Multi Pro and SS120 then you cannot compare
flatbed to dedicated film scanner.  My 3200 scans appear very soft but look
great after sharpening in PS, and all the detail is there.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test
results)


> well mine is. and I've had it serviced twice. There really is no
comparison
> with scans I've done on both a Minolta and Polaroid film scanner of the
same
> neg.
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
Test
> results)
>
>
> > Julian
> >
> > The 1680 cannot be producing softer scans than the 3200 and I am getting
> > excellent results with just PS sharpening.  I have definitely found
> > artifacts appearing when doing any sort of sharpening in the scan
> software,
> > especailly is smooth, even tones such as blue sky.  I have also found
that
> > UltraSharpen Pro produces much better results than plain USM.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 2:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
> Test
> > results)
> >
> >
> > > You are dead right - it is better to leave sharpening until PS, BUT
the
> > > optics in the 1680 are so soft that I need both. BTW I only do this in
> > BW -
> > > for colour I do all the sharpening (I use Ultra Sharpen Pro) in PS.
One
> > test
> > > I do is to take a blank neg and use a sharp knife to make a score and

> then
> > > experiment with various amounts of sharpening to get a fine line.
> Flatbed
> > > scanners IME just cannot get the sharpness of a film scanner. People
> talk
> > > resolution numbers all the time but ignore the 'look' of scanners. I
> note
> > > that this is happening with cameras i.e. the Kodak is 'better' than
the
> > > canon because it has more megapixels, noone seems to be bothered about
> the
> > > image quality!
> > >
> > > Julian
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alessandro Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@...>
> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
> > Test
> > > results)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Julian,
> > > >
> > > > do you get better results with a pre-sharpening at scan time? I
always
> > > read
> > > > that it's better to leave the sharpening to Photoshop.
> > > >
> > > > Alessandro
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> > > > > Sent: domenica 16 marzo 2003 12:06
> > > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was:
> Epson3200 -
> > > > > Test results)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  I cannot get satisfactory scans (sharp) without applying 3x3
> > > > > > pixel unsharp mask in the scanning application (Silverfast Ai
6).
> > > > >
> > > > > Me too on a 1680. I need a 3x3 in the scanner software plus the
> usual
> > > > > unsharp mask tricks in PS. Just as an example - I had some
> > > > > scans done on a
> > > > > minolta of 6x6 cm negs. On the 1680 I have to use the same
> > > > > amount of unsharp
> > > > > mask on a 600x600 pixel 75ppi jpeg as i did on the 4800ppi
> > > > > minolta tiff
> > > > > file. Colour is harder as the 3x3 gives me a halo effect. I've
> started
> > > > > shooting a BW landscape project (ok Nij stop laughing) and the
> lackof
> > > > > sharpness is pissing me off big time
> > > > >
> > > > > Julian
> >
> >
> >
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