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RE: [Digital BW] Re: UltraTone Mix is wrong!

2003-04-04 by Paul Roark

Steve wrote:

>I have unfortunately been unable to correct the clogging
>issues I have had with Eboni black. ...

I have been running Eboni and the new Ultra Tone (my vm 4.3, actually) in my
7500 and 1160 for months now.  I have had no significant clogs at all.
These are not CFS/CISs, and I'm not sure if there are differences that might
affect those units.

MIS is, I beleive, going to send me a 1280 and CFS.  I'll see if I can
replicate the clogs.  MIS has, I'm told, had 3 CFSs with Eboni running for
months without problems.

Frankly, I generally prefer my 1160 to hextones for matte printing.
However, given the number of 1280s out there, and the potential of that
machine, I've agreed to test the system (and play with it, of course).

After I see if Eboni runs OK with a CFS, I'll probably turn the CFS into a
"midtone-only" CFS.  I like to switch blacks easily.  Right now, for
example, I have Epson UltraChrome Matte Black in my 1160.  (A post on the
WideFormat forum suggested it achieved 1.90 dmax on Epson UltraSmooth!??  No
way, try 1.62.)

I will definitely be using a lot of Photo &/or Epson Archival black with the
Ultra Tone midtones.  One project, for example, is to see if the 1280 and
this inkset can make good digital internegatives.  (My 1160 is really not up
to the standards I want for an internegative.)

At any rate, I should have a 1280 running Eboni and Ultra Tone through a CFS
in a week or so.  I'll let you know if the news is good or bad.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
________________________________



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Korte"
<jeffkorte@m...> wrote:
> I will be making the switch from VMs to the Ultratones soon. It
> appears that these new inks may be more difficult to use with a
> CIS (nomorecarts in my case).
>
> Is anyone using these new inks successfully with a CIS?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul
>
> Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Jerry,
> >
> > The Eboni ink was not affected by the mixing errors.  I have yet
> to have any
> > clogs with Eboni.  I don't follow the Piezo list, but I did a
quick
> search
> > there about a week ago and didn't notice any significant
> Museum black
> > clogging issues either.  I think they are about the same ink.  I
> strongly
> > suspect the problems you were having were CIS
> cartridge-related, not
> > ink-related.
> >
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com
> > _________________________________________
> >



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