Digital BW, The Print

Perhaps I should have gone on to tell you my observations.  I use 
Piezography quad tone in one of the 1160, which is superb.  I used 
to use Lyson Quad Black but couldn't live with the very marked 
metamerism.  I've just started using the Lyson Small Gamut in the 
new 1160 - there is a slight metamerism but I'm using these inks for 
toned prints so it's not a problem.  I've also got a 1290 (same as 
1280 but given a different model number over here for some reason - 
maybe different voltage) in which I use Lyson Fotonic colour inks.  
I'm using CIS systems on two of the printers, but not the new one 
yet, and these work very well.  I'm extremely satisfied with this 
setup and doubt if I'll be changing for a long time - unless the 
printers give up on me of course!

Vince 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "loweskid" 
<loweskid@v...> wrote:
> I'd just like to point out to anyone in the UK that the 1160 is 
> still available over here - I bought one about a month ago (my 
> second and they are good!).  I've just checked two UK sources and 
> both have it in stock with no 'until stocks last' notice or 
> similar.  I don't know why they should be still selling it over 
here 
> but not in the US.  Anyone from Epson care to tell us?
> 
> Vince
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh 
Jani" 
> <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> > Yes there are a lot of new products on the way, announced and 
> > rumoured.  But if you want a printer that is currently available 
> and 
> > has passed the test of time using many insets/worflows/papers, 
the 
> > Epson 1280 is it.  The 1160 is also fantastic, but not available 
> > anymore.
> > 
> > With the 1280 you have the following choices:
> > 
> > MIS VM
> > MIS VM Sepia
> > MIS FS (Epson Driver)
> > MIS FS (Piezography Driver)
> > PiezoneTone (three diffrent ink tones for use with Piezography)
> > Sundance inks and driver
> > Lyson Small Gamut
> > Numerous RIPs
> > 
> > I personally use 2 different 1280 printers, mixing my own 
> > modifications of FS inks.  My only complaint about the 1280 is 
> > speed.  Only Canon printers will beat the 1280 on speed, and so 
> far 
> > Canon printers are untested for use with pigment gray inks.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.  Remember, you can make better prints today 
with 
> a 
> > printer you have now than with a system that is not yet 
available.
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Shilesh
> > 
> > --- In 
> > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "nedbuntline2002" 
> > <NedBuntline@H...> wrote:
> > > I'm finally making the leap from wet to digital.  I do mostly 
> B&W 
> > 4X5 
> > > work with some 35mm.  I just purchased Photoshop 7.  Until I 
> decide 
> > > on a scanner, I'm having a local service scan my negatives.  
My 
> > > hardest decision right now is what printer to get.  I know a 
lot 
> of 
> > > people use the 1280 with various quadtone inks.  And following 
> that 
> > > is a smattering of other printers and manufacturers.
> > > 
> > > I guess I'm looking for something that isn't on the way out.  
> I've 
> > > looked at the 2200, but I've heard about some promising 
printers 
> > from 
> > > Canon for this type of work.  So my question is this:
> > > 
> > > If you had $1000 or less to spend on a printer, and wanted to 
> get 
> > the 
> > > best you could for B&W, what would you buy right now?  Please 
> also 
> > > take into account any rumors of future support by inkset 
> providers.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!