Paul, you wrote: > > However, the test print I did on EEM came out greenish. > > The only time I've seen color in the new VM 4.3/Ultra Tone inks is when the > damper allows some residual old ink to mix in. This usually disappears > after the first few days of printing, however. I'm not sure if some > hardened old pigment in the dampers could slowly "dissolve" (or get > re-suspended?) such that after a long time sitting it could affect the > color. To avoid any contamination by Epson dyes or a cleaning fluid when I loaded the 9000 with Ultratone I've used a vacuumpump at the airtight wastebottle/tubes that I had already installed a year ago. First emptied the CIS bottles of dye ink and then loaded them with water + Windex, pulled through the system with the vacuum pump, added clean water in the bottles and pulled that through too, then emptied the bottles of the last water and pumped out all the water from the tubes. Taken out the dampers and cleaned them by reverse spooling with a syringe, replaced one as it had too little flow, assembled it all again. Put the Ultratones in the bottles and pulled the inks in the system with the vacuum pump again, that took 20 seconds till the grey inks dripped in the waste bottles. All the time no need for initial fills or any head activity etc. Printed an A1 purge file with CcMmYK fields. One cleaning and it was all working. There's a small white line in the blacks but that was there before the ink change so I have to change the dark head soon. With this in mind I'm a bit surprised that there should be any ink left in the dampers, there was little colour left in the water when I checked the dampers. The CIS tubes of black and yellow show staining but that will never have an influence on the hexatone. Hardened pigment is unlikely too and doesn't fit Steve's story, I wonder whether Steve has done much printing after the first installation of the inks and before the 3 weeks rest. Just contamination with some leftover older ink or cleaning fluid not totally taken out of the tubes. Otherwise it has to be separation of the ink and that is strange as the tubes at that point don't drop more than 10 cm and one would expect the pigment to be heavier. If the medium is heavier you get the reversed effect like Steve describes. With Generations 4 there never would be a separation in the inklines in such a short period and the effect would be: pigments at the bottom. The VM curves are good in tone, no crossover effects, no metamerism but is it an optical illusion that the cold print looks lighter than the warmest print ? MIS did send me replacement pint bottles for the cyan, lite cyan and yellow positions when they were not sure about the contents of the first package that I received. I can easily make the cold print darker but I would like to get some feedback on that observation. Could also be my printer of course. Ernst
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Re: [Digital BW] Yet another fade test-VM 4.3 vs. Museum Black
2003-04-28 by Ernst Dinkla
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